[HECnet] Is this the most up to date version of DECnet OS numbers?

John Forecast john at forecast.name
Sun Nov 7 18:25:19 PST 2021


> On Nov 7, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-11-07 18:06, Robert Armstrong wrote:
>>> I think DECnet/8 is for RTS-8, but there never was one for OS-8.
>>   Yes, the DECnet-8 was for RTS although you could run OS/8 as a task under
>> RTS (so maybe those two count as the same).  In any case AFAIK there was
>> never any NFT or FAL or remote terminal or NCP/NML or anything else like
>> that implemented for DECnet/8.  It was more of a toolkit kind of thing where
>> you could write your own RTS program to make a DECnet connection to another
>> node.  What you sent over that connection was your problem.
> 
> Right. It was/is slightly more than a toolkit. It does have a couple of processes which deals with circuits and executor management. And I think there is TLK/LSN so you can communicate. But beyond that, you were on your own.
> 
> And no, OS/8 under RTS-8 don't allow them to be counted as one. :-)
> 
>>   Never heard of DECnet for CP/M although there certainly was one for MSDOS.
>> Linux is interesting, although I doubt that was put there by DEC.  Probably
>> somebody added it later.
> 
> Linux was definitely defined post-DEC. I simply just talked with a Linux FAL from RSX and checked what value it put in the OS field, and added that to my list from there.
> 
>>   And what the heck is COPOS/11??  I see that is says TOPS-20 front end, but
>> I thought TOPS20 used the same RSX20F as TOPS10.
> 
> I don't think it's the same as the RSX20F frontend. I have no idea what it is, but it's in the source files for the RSX DECnet code. Sounds like some oddball thing that existed somewhere. CSS thing maybe?
> 
>>   And DTF/MVS?  Is that the IBM OS MVS?
> 
> I almost suspect it might be, but again, no real clue. All I can say is that this is what is in the RSX sources.
> 

One of the field service offices in New Jersey (Murray Hill perhaps) did a custom implementation of DECnet for Unix System V for the Bell system. When we started working on DECnet-SCO, we tried to get access to the code but was told it was considered proprietary code owned by the Bell system.

  John.

>  Johnny
> 
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