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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Dan,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Well, psuvax1 was available to BITNET during my college life (1984 to 1990). I mean that MUD server was on PSUVMS, not PSUVAX1. I tried to remember which BITNET node. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I do not know what happens to UREP software yet. I was looking for that but can’t find so far… There is only open-source RSCS emulator (FunetNJE) available on funnet’s ftp site.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Also I found open-source HUJINET for VMS is available on that ftp site. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I successfully installed JNet 3.6 and TCPNJE 1.2 on my SIMH emulator. Since I do not have JNet manuals, I figured out how to install and configure. I have to write installation guide in progress.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I am now able send messages and files. I learned that JNet supports DECnet links for sending files to specific persons. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Does anyone have copy of JNet manuals include programming guide?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Tim<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Cross<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 31, 2017 5:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> hecnet@update.uu.se<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [HECnet] Public Services over DECnet<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Timothy Stark <<a href="mailto:fsword007@gmail.com" target="_blank">fsword007@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Folks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I was exposed to only local DECnet during college life (1984-1990) at Gallaudet University in DC area. I was CS student. I had accessed to VAX, PDP-10 (TOPS-10), and Ultrix system which was connected to the Internet (SURAnet). VAX system was connected to BITNET with using JNet software. I used DECnet to transfer my files between VAX, PDP-10 and Ultrix systems and logged into other systems via DECnet (set host command). <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>I got JNet software with TCPNJE driver for my emulated VAX system. I installed FunetNJE (available on <a href="http://ftp.funet.fi" target="_blank">ftp.funet.fi</a>) on Linux system and was able send messages to my emulated VAX system or via. I am still looking for JNet 1.x and 2.x for older VMS operating systems that I have. Also, I am still looking for JNet manuals as well. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Wow, I've been wondering whatever happened to JNet. Same with UREP (Unix RSCS Emulation Program: basically, BITNET for Unix).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Some BITNET file servers have good resources for VM and VAX operating systems. There were RELAY servers as well.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Yeah. There are still MUD sources (like TinyMUD and AberMUD) on the Internet for UNIX systems.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>There was MUD server on PSUVAX for a few months. That was so fun until system admin asked someone to shut down due to excessively resources. I tried to contact MUD developer to give me a copy but they said no.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hmm. Do you know what timeframe that was in? psuvax1 was actually a Sun in it's later life (a 4/280, I think?)....<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>At college, We used Kermit to access VAX, PDP-10 and Ultrix systems as terminal and file transfers (very slow!!). Network admin told me that and use TCP/IP software instead. TCP/IP is much more effective than Kermit. <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>I graduated from Gallaudet University before TCP/IP became standard (replaces old Kermit, etc.) for system-wide use after sys admin retired.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yeah. I saw that declining of BITnet in 1990s in favors of the Internet as standard communication. I never use THEnet because it was not available at my college campus. Today I recently discovered HECnet and am planning to join HECnet with my emulated VAX system. I am considering about Hobbyist version of BITnet some day with JNet and FunetNJE software. I had seen some people used Hercules 390 to run VM/ESA or z/VM to can communicate with that. VM/370 (released to public) does not support that yet.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I can't say I'm sad to see RSCS networks die, but there's definitely some nostalgia factor to seeing people use BITNET again.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> - Dan C.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>