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<body>I haven't really looked at what this might be, but one reflection is that ncp is not really the right tool of you're running decnet+.<br>
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Johnny <br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">dwe-6006@philtest.org skrev: (23 april 2018 01:01:28 CEST)<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">I’m not sure that asymmetric is the co</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">rrect description but I can’t think of a better term. I am using SIMH and I have a two node cluster (with a quorum disk)</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">the two nodes have a common system disk. </font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">The two nodes are RODNEL</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">(1.1) booting from SYS0 and ADV2 (1.3) booting from SYS2. Both are running DECnet Plus</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> both are running Multinet for the IP stack. At one time there was also a node (never</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">actually a member of the cluster called HCBVAX (1.2) it booted from SYS1 but it no longer exists</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">.</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">The nodes are connected over an Ethernet and the MAC addresses are the ones that I would expect AA-</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">00-04-00-01-04 (1.1) and AA-00-04-00-03-04 (1.3) HCBVAX was</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">AA-00-04-00-02-04 (1.2)</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">I can login to RODNEL and</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">“set host adv2” with no problem, I can login to ADV2 and “set host rondel” with no problem.</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">On each of the nodes I can “show cluster” and I see what I expect to see with no error</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">s. While logged in to RODNEL the command</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">“moni cluster” works fine</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">. While logged in</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> to ADV2 the wheels seem to fall off the bus</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> – “show cluster” is fine but “moni cluster” isn’t</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> Any help would be appreciated. This is the information that I have gathered so far</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> (I am not happy with the forwarding address in the error message from “moni proc” on ADV2 wh</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">ich seems to arise from RODNEL </font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">--Dave</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">View of Cluster from system ID 1027 node: ADV2 22-APR-2018 22:24:50</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">+-----------------------------+</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">¦ SYSTEMS ¦ MEMBERS ¦</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">+-------------------+---------¦</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">¦ NODE ¦ SOFTWARE ¦ STATUS ¦</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">+--------+----------+---------¦</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">¦ ADV2 ¦ VMS V7.3 ¦ MEMBER ¦</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">¦ RODNEL ¦ VMS V7.3 ¦ MEMBER ¦</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">+-----------------------------+</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">^Z</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">$</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">$ moni cluster</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">%MONITOR-I-ESTABCON, establishing connection to remote node(s)...</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 22-APR-2018 22:24:56.75 %%%%%%%%%%%</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Message from user SYSTEM on RODNEL</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Event: Address Unreachable PDU Discard from: Node LOCAL:.RODNEL Routing,</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New"> at: 2018-04-22-23:24:56.740-04:00Iinf</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New"> Discard Reason=Destination Addrs Unknown,</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New"> Source Address=49::00-01:AA-00-04-00-03-04:21,</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New"> Forwarding Address=49::00-01:AA-00-04-00-02-04:21</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New"> eventUid FC95D640-467B-11E8-99E1-AA0004000104</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New"> entityUid 5683CC80-467B-11E8-8004-AA0004000104</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New"> streamUid 5A113900-467B-11E8-8004-AA0004000104</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">Still on ADV2</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> -</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">NCP</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> is odd as well:</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">$ mcr ncp</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">NCP>sho exec char</font></span></p>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Node Volatile Characteristics as of 22-APR-2018 22:31:17</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Executor node = 1.3 (ADV2)</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Identification = DECnet-OSI for OpenVMS</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Management version = V4.0.0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Incoming timer = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Outgoing timer = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">NSP version = V4.1.0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum links = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Delay factor = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Delay weight = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Inactivity timer = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Retransmit factor = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Routing version = V2.0.0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Type = nonrouting IV</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Routing timer = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Subaddresses = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Broadcast routing timer = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum address = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum circuits = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum cost = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum hops = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum visits = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum area = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Max broadcast nonrouters = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Max broadcast routers = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum path splits = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Area maximum cost = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Area maximum hops = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum buffers = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Segment buffer size = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Buffer size = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Pipeline quota = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Alias maximum links = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Path split policy = Normal</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum Declared Objects = 0</font></span></p>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">NCP>show know nodes</font></span></p>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Known Node Volatile Summary as of 22-APR-2018 22:31:29</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Executor node = 1.3 (ADV2)</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">State = on</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Identification = DECnet-OSI for OpenVMS</font></span></p>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">NCP>def node rodnel</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Node address (1.1-63.1023): 1.1</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Node name (1-6 characters): rodnel</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">NCP>set node rodnel all</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">%NCP-W-UNRCMP, Unrecognized component</font></span></p>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">NCP>set node rodnel</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Node address (1.1-63.1023): 1.1</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Node name (1-6 characters): rodnel</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">%NCP-W-UNRCMP, Unrecognized component , Node</font></span></p>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">NCP>exit</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">Whereas RODNEL seems happier:</font></span></p>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">NCP>sho exec char</font></span></p>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Node Volatile Characteristics as of 22-APR-2018 20:15:29</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Executor node = 1.1 (RODNEL)</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Identification = DECnet-OSI for OpenVMS</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Management version = V4.0.0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Incoming timer = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Outgoing timer = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">NSP version = V4.1.0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum links = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Delay factor = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Delay weight = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Inactivity timer = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Retransmit factor = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Routing version = V2.0.0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Type = nonrouting IV</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Routing timer = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Subaddresses = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Broadcast routing timer = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum address = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum circuits = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum cost = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum hops = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum visits = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum area = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Max broadcast nonrouters = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Max broadcast routers = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum path splits = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Area maximum cost = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Area maximum hops = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum buffers = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Segment buffer size = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Buffer size = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Pipeline quota = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Alias maximum links = 0</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Path split policy = Normal</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Maximum Declared Objects = 0</font></span></p>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">NCP>sho kno node</font></span></p>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Known Node Volatile Summary as of 22-APR-2018 20:15:37</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Executor node = 1.1 (RODNEL)</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">State = on</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Identification = DECnet-OSI for OpenVMS</font></span></p>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New"> Node State Active Delay Circuit Next node</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New"> Links</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New"> 1.3 (ADV2) 1.1 (RODNEL)</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">NCP>sho node adv2 char</font></span></p>
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Node Volatile Characteristics as of 22-APR-2018 20:16:02</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Remote node = 1.3 (ADV2)</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New">Service password = 0000000000000000</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
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