<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 17, 2018, at 7:54 AM, Clem Cole <<a href="mailto:clemc@ccc.com" class="">clemc@ccc.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 12:24 AM, Zane Healy <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:healyzh@avanthar.com" target="_blank" class="">healyzh@avanthar.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Does anyone happen to know if the sourcecode for AlgolW exists?</div></div></blockquote><div class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline" class="">I have at home<span class=""> </span></span>Wirth's original version from Stanford <span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline" class="">which was written in PL/360 </span>that ran on TSS/360 and the like,<span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline" class=""><span class=""> </span></span>(send me email off line if you are interested) although I suspect you can find is also with a little poking on <a href="http://archive.org/" target="_blank" class="">archive.org</a>. The Case-Western version for the PDP-10 (which I think may have been incomplete) I don't know. I never saw it, nor what it was written in; although I have seen various references to it on different PDP-10 web pages. Google around, you might find it. I'd be interested in knowing what the Case folks wrote it in. PL/360 was pretty arcane and definitely IBM 360 specific, so the authors would have had to done a lot of work to move to the 10 besides just a new backend. </div></div><div class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">A nice commentary about Algol-W can be found at: <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20160914215433/http://everything2.com/title/Algol%20W" target="_blank" class="">http://web.archive.org/<wbr class="">web/20160914215433/http://<wbr class="">everything2.com/title/Algol%<wbr class="">2520W</a> </div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="">although that document does not mention TSS/360 which is where I ran it years ago.</span></div><div class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">FWIW: There is an algolwtoc that exists which I also have. I played with a little a few years ago. I was trying to decide for myself which was a better first/teaching language, Algol-W or Pascal (there is a case to made for both). The author of the document I mentioned suggests that Algol-W is better because it was simpler and had far fewer 'idiosyncrasies.’</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Thanks for that everything2 link.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Eventually I might get Hercules back up and running. I’ve no real experience with IBM mainframes though. My background was Harris and Honeywell, before moving to UNIX and eventually DEC. The PDP-10 version, which is what I’m looking for is apparently implemented in something called META2.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><a href="ftp://ftp.avanthar.com/pub/pdp10/algol/algolw.txt" class="">ftp://ftp.avanthar.com/pub/pdp10/algol/algolw.txt</a></div><div><br class=""></div><div>Here is the writeup on some of the background of AlgolW on the PDP-10.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><a href="http://www.avanthar.com/healyzh/decemulation/algol-w_story.html" class="">http://www.avanthar.com/healyzh/decemulation/algol-w_story.html</a></div><div><br class=""></div><div>Zane</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div></div><br class=""></body></html>