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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>From memory you really want to do a ‘static’ build of TME. I’ve always had issues with it finding itself.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:raywjewhurst@gmail.com">Ray Jewhurst</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, September 21, 2018 10:30 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:hecnet@update.uu.se">hecnet@update.uu.se</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Still having problems. It's not seeing any devices. Here's what I get:</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>./MY-SUN2:8: tme/machine/sun2: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:9: mainbus0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:10: mainbus0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:11: mainbus0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:12: obmem0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:13: obmem0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:14: obmem0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:18: obio0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:19: obio0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:20: obio0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:24: mainbus0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:25: tme/generic/bus: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:26: mbmem0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:30: mbmem0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:31: sc0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:63: obmem0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:64: obmem0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:65: zs1: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:66: zs1: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:67: tme/host/gtk/display: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:68: bwtwo0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:69: kbd0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:70: ms0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:87: scsibus0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:88: sd0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:95: scsibus0: No such file or directory<br>./MY-SUN2:96: st0: No such file or directory<br>tmesh> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I copied everything into /usr/local so I don't get what's going wrong.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ray</p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:57 PM, Mark Abene <<a href="mailto:phiber@phiber.com" target="_blank">phiber@phiber.com</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Like I suspected, the autoconfig creates the ic/Makefile with the wrong install order.</p><div><p class=MsoNormal>QUICK FIX:</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Before you 'make install', edit $HOME/tme/tme-0.8/ic/Makefile and change lines 371 and 372 so that SUBDIRS and DIST_SUBDIRS say "ieee754 m68k sparc stp22xx" (without the quotes), so that "ieee754" appears first, not second.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Then a 'make install' should just work without errors.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>-Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:33 PM, Mark Abene <<a href="mailto:phiber@phiber.com" target="_blank">phiber@phiber.com</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Excellent! I'll probably go look in the main Makefile and correct the ieee754 library install to happen earlier on, to avoid this error.</p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Have fun,</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Mark</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Ray Jewhurst <<a href="mailto:raywjewhurst@gmail.com" target="_blank">raywjewhurst@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Mark,</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It worked like a charm. Thanks. Now the fun begins!</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks again,</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ray</p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:19 PM, Mark Abene <<a href="mailto:phiber@phiber.com" target="_blank">phiber@phiber.com</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Oddly enough, I did have that happen on one install but not another. Try this:</p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>cd $HOME/tme/tme-0.8/ic/ieee754</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>make install</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>...and if that works, try 'make install' again from the main tme-0.8 directory.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I suspect some things in the install might be occurring out of order.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>-Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Ray Jewhurst <<a href="mailto:raywjewhurst@gmail.com" target="_blank">raywjewhurst@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Mark,</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I followed your instructions to a "T" and it built fine but I got the following errors on the install.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>/usr/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu-ld: cannot find -ltme-ieee754<br>collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status<br>libtool: install: error: relink `<a href="http://tme_ic_m68k.la" target="_blank">tme_ic_m68k.la</a>' with the above command before installing it<br>Makefile:312: recipe for target 'install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES' failed<br>make[4]: *** [install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1<br>make[4]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k'<br>Makefile:470: recipe for target 'install-am' failed<br>make[3]: *** [install-am] Error 2<br>make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k'<br>Makefile:464: recipe for target 'install' failed<br>make[2]: *** [install] Error 2<br>make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k'<br>Makefile:612: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed<br>make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1<br>make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic'<br>Makefile:315: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed<br>make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I also am also running Ubuntu 18.04.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks in advance,</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ray</p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Mark Abene <<a href="mailto:phiber@phiber.com" target="_blank">phiber@phiber.com</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>I posted this message yesterday, but for some reason people are telling me it never went to the list.</p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I removed the photos I originally attached and am sending it again.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-Mark</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b>Mark Abene</b> <<a href="mailto:phiber@phiber.com" target="_blank">phiber@phiber.com</a>><br>Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 2:58 PM<br>Subject: Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA<br>To: <a href="mailto:hecnet@update.uu.se" target="_blank">hecnet@update.uu.se</a><br><br></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>To everyone who asked, I built TME last night on Ubuntu 18.04 on two different systems, and installed NetBSD 1.6.2 on a sun3/160 instance.</p><div><p class=MsoNormal>It's working very nicely, minus networking; bear in mind that TME was originally written to run on a NetBSD host (it's in the pkg collection), and makes use of BPF to implement networking (I seem to remember it also working on FreeBSD). Linux does have a bpf compatibility interface, so I'll see if it can be made to work and follow up with you all. That said, grab TME here: <a href="https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/tme-0.8.tar.gz" target="_blank">https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/tme-0.8.tar.gz</a></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That's the home site, there's lots of info on the emulator <a href="https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/" target="_blank">https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/</a></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>There's also this site, specifically about installing SunOS 4.1.1: <a href="http://www.abiyo.net/retrocomputing/installingsunos411tosun3emulatedintme08onlinux" target="_blank">http://www.abiyo.net/retrocomputing/installingsunos411tosun3emulatedintme08onlinux</a></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>DON'T follow those build instructions, they're incredibly old and will get you nowhere fast. :)</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Here are my steps:</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Make sure you have the gtk-2.0 and glib2.0 dev packages installed. Then...</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>mkdir $HOME/tme</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>cd $HOME/tme</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>tar -zxvf your_download_dir/tme-0.8.tar.gz</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>cd tme-0.8</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>vi libtme/module.c (comment out line 93 "LTDL_SET_PRELOADED_SYMBOLS();", it's no longer needed) and save.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>./configure --prefix=$HOME/tme --disable-warnings 'LIBS=-lglib-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lX11'</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>export LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/tme/lib (or "setenv LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH $HOME/tme/lib" for csh/tcsh)</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>make</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>make install</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If everything built and installed without errors, you'll have the install tree in $HOME/tme. From here you can follow the various instructions on the original site above for installing NetBSD, etc.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If you ran into any errors either building, installing, or running, just drop me a note, I'd be happy to help!</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>P.S.: I've attached some photos of it booting up!</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>P.P.S: You'll notice it seg fault when you exit tmesh. The original does this too. The author even comments about how there's no "quit" command.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Mark</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Dave McGuire <<a href="mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com" target="_blank">mcguire@neurotica.com</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal><br> Thanks Mark!<br><span style='color:#888888'><br><span class="m370436205713796742m6981746994907245178m-1797623556365443100m8656799729339130503m-3350302887020180263m1701206691048096185m3801849645474533659hoenzb"> -Dave</span><br></span><br><span class="m370436205713796742m6981746994907245178m-1797623556365443100m8656799729339130503m-3350302887020180263m1701206691048096185m3801849645474533659im">On 09/18/2018 08:59 PM, Mark Abene wrote:</span><br><span class="m370436205713796742m6981746994907245178m-1797623556365443100m8656799729339130503m-3350302887020180263m1701206691048096185m3801849645474533659im">> Absolutely. I'll dig it out after dinner later tonight.</span><br><span class="m370436205713796742m6981746994907245178m-1797623556365443100m8656799729339130503m-3350302887020180263m1701206691048096185m3801849645474533659im">> </span><br><span class="m370436205713796742m6981746994907245178m-1797623556365443100m8656799729339130503m-3350302887020180263m1701206691048096185m3801849645474533659im">> -Mark</span><br><span class="m370436205713796742m6981746994907245178m-1797623556365443100m8656799729339130503m-3350302887020180263m1701206691048096185m3801849645474533659im">> </span><br><span class="m370436205713796742m6981746994907245178m-1797623556365443100m8656799729339130503m-3350302887020180263m1701206691048096185m3801849645474533659im">> </span><br><span class="m370436205713796742m6981746994907245178m-1797623556365443100m8656799729339130503m-3350302887020180263m1701206691048096185m3801849645474533659im">> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Dave McGuire <<a href="mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com" target="_blank">mcguire@neurotica.com</a></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com" target="_blank">mcguire@neurotica.com</a>>> wrote:<br>> <br>> On 09/18/2018 08:12 PM, Mark Abene wrote:<br>> > The TME emulator works fine on Ubuntu with very minor massaging. I don't<br>> > recall having to do anything extremely out of the ordinary.<br>> > For me the fun was in emulating a Sun 3/80 I used to have. If you like,<br>> > I can dig it up my TME install. Haven't used it in a while.<br>> <br>> If you can find any notes that you my have taken on what it took to<br>> get it running, I'd very much appreciate that. I hacked on it for a bit<br>> earlier this year, but ran out of time and eventually gave up.<br>> <br>> -Dave<br>> <br>> -- <br>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ<br>> New Kensington, PA<br>> <br>> <br><br><span style='color:#888888'><br><span class="m370436205713796742m6981746994907245178m-1797623556365443100m8656799729339130503m-3350302887020180263hoenzb">-- </span><br><span class="m370436205713796742m6981746994907245178m-1797623556365443100m8656799729339130503m-3350302887020180263hoenzb">Dave McGuire, AK4HZ</span><br><span class="m370436205713796742m6981746994907245178m-1797623556365443100m8656799729339130503m-3350302887020180263hoenzb">New Kensington, PA</span></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>