<div dir="auto">Ugh. Back to work. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I did see some errors....</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kurt</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 8, 2019, 8:35 PM Johnny Billquist <<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se">bqt@softjar.se</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Well, just taking a peek at CURLY, I can also tell that you have not <br>
managed to get the multinet links up and running, but are communicating <br>
with DECnet over ethernet. :-)<br>
<br>
Johnny<br>
<br>
On 2019-06-09 02:20, Kurt Hamm wrote:<br>
> That's it! Everything works great. I have the node list and can access <br>
> reachable nodes from the PDP-11.<br>
> <br>
> This is just really wonderful.<br>
> <br>
> As a thank you, I will leave the mailing list alone for a while. ha!<br>
> <br>
> Kurt<br>
> <br>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 6:42 PM Johnny Billquist <<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bqt@softjar.se</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bqt@softjar.se</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Ok, a quick rundown on some of the more esoteric details about lines<br>
> and<br>
> circuits might be useful here.<br>
> <br>
> First of all, Kurt, you might want to redo the NETGEN and not set the<br>
> system up for DECnet routing. It takes a lot of resources, and if you<br>
> don't really want it, you are much better off with a system not even<br>
> generated for it.<br>
> <br>
> The question about remote nodes are just for an initial population of<br>
> your local nodename database. All you need there is really to define<br>
> MIM<br>
> (1.13). You can then copy the whole nodename database from MIM over to<br>
> your machine that way instead. Let me know if you want some details on<br>
> that step.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 2019-06-08 22:25, Mark Matlock wrote:<br>
> > Kurt,<br>
> > If you want two circuits like UNA-0 and IP-0-0 I think you<br>
> have to<br>
> > be a routing node (but not an area router).<br>
> <br>
> Not really, but maybe. If you define multiple circuits, and are an<br>
> end-node, only one circuit will be active. But others can exist, and<br>
> the<br>
> system will fall back to some other circuit if the active one goes<br>
> down.<br>
> So it can be used as a back connection.<br>
> <br>
> However, even as an end-node, you can have several *lines* on and<br>
> active<br>
> at the same time. And this is a trick to use if you want<br>
> DECnet-over-IP,<br>
> but want to be an endnode. You need ethernet for TCP/IP to work, but<br>
> you<br>
> do not want DECnet to use the ethernet circuit.<br>
> <br>
> But you configure one IP line as well, and that is the one DECnet will<br>
> be using. Meanwhile, TCP/IP is using the ethernet line.<br>
> <br>
> It might sound a little confusing, but think about it for a second, and<br>
> I hope it becomes clear. Otherwise, just ask, and I'll try to<br>
> explain it<br>
> better.<br>
> <br>
> > Also, you should define all the nodes you want to talk to with<br>
> NCP in<br>
> > one of the startup files or do it with CFE but I prefer startup<br>
> so it’s<br>
> > simple to change.<br>
> <br>
> I would actually say that you wouldn't. Of course, there is nothing<br>
> wrong in doing this, but if you want the full HECnet nodename database,<br>
> it contains 700 nodes. That will take a while to type in.<br>
> <br>
> However, you can copy the nodename database from another DECnet node,<br>
> and then use this.<br>
> <br>
> But you need at least the nodename of someone where you will be copying<br>
> from to start with, which is why I suggested adding MIM at the start.<br>
> <br>
> After that, there is [5,54]NNC which is the nodename collector task.<br>
> Run<br>
> it, collect names from another node, and build a new database with<br>
> this.<br>
> Then stop and restart the node name server, and you have all the nodes<br>
> defined.<br>
> <br>
> (The node name server is managed by the command SCP.<br>
> So, SCP STOP followed by SCP START will do it.)<br>
> <br>
> Johnny<br>
> <br>
> -- <br>
> Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus<br>
> || on a psychedelic trip<br>
> email: <a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bqt@softjar.se</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bqt@softjar.se</a>> || <br>
> Reading murder books<br>
> pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol<br>
> <br>
<br>
-- <br>
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus<br>
|| on a psychedelic trip<br>
email: <a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bqt@softjar.se</a> || Reading murder books<br>
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol<br>
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