<div dir="ltr">OK. I did have two ethernet adapters configured for each server. I disabled the second one. But, worse, in the simh ini file, both servers had the same MAC addresses associated with their ethernet adapters. I am not sure how this ever worked.<div><br></div><div>I am still checking things and will start working on that PDP-11 default thing shortly.</div><div><br></div><div>Kurt<br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 8:47 PM Johnny Billquist <<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se">bqt@softjar.se</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Oh, and by the way... Do you have two physical, separate ethernets? <br>
Because otherwise you might be in even more trouble, as you have two <br>
ethernet interfaces defined on MOE, and they both see LARRY. If you <br>
actually have two ethernet networks between the two machines, then <br>
everything is fine. Otherwise you are actually very messed up.<br>
<br>
Johnny<br>
<br>
On 2019-06-09 02:45, Johnny Billquist wrote:<br>
> Maybe not much comfort, but MOE isn't using the multinet link to LARRY <br>
> either, but is also talking over ethernet.<br>
> <br>
> Johnny<br>
> <br>
> On 2019-06-09 02:36, Kurt Hamm wrote:<br>
>> Ugh. Back to work.<br>
>><br>
>> I did see some errors....<br>
>><br>
>> Kurt<br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2019, 8:35 PM Johnny Billquist <<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a> <br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Well, just taking a peek at CURLY, I can also tell that you have not<br>
>> managed to get the multinet links up and running, but are <br>
>> communicating<br>
>> with DECnet over ethernet. :-)<br>
>><br>
>> Johnny<br>
>><br>
>> On 2019-06-09 02:20, Kurt Hamm wrote:<br>
>> > That's it! Everything works great. I have the node list and can<br>
>> access<br>
>> > reachable nodes from the PDP-11.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > This is just really wonderful.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > As a thank you, I will leave the mailing list alone for a <br>
>> while. ha!<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Kurt<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 6:42 PM Johnny Billquist <<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a>><br>
>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Ok, a quick rundown on some of the more esoteric details<br>
>> about lines<br>
>> > and<br>
>> > circuits might be useful here.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > First of all, Kurt, you might want to redo the NETGEN and not<br>
>> set the<br>
>> > system up for DECnet routing. It takes a lot of resources,<br>
>> and if you<br>
>> > don't really want it, you are much better off with a system<br>
>> not even<br>
>> > generated for it.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > The question about remote nodes are just for an initial<br>
>> population of<br>
>> > your local nodename database. All you need there is really to<br>
>> define<br>
>> > MIM<br>
>> > (1.13). You can then copy the whole nodename database from<br>
>> MIM over to<br>
>> > your machine that way instead. Let me know if you want some<br>
>> details on<br>
>> > that step.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On 2019-06-08 22:25, Mark Matlock wrote:<br>
>> > > Kurt,<br>
>> > > If you want two circuits like UNA-0 and IP-0-0 I <br>
>> think you<br>
>> > have to<br>
>> > > be a routing node (but not an area router).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Not really, but maybe. If you define multiple circuits, and<br>
>> are an<br>
>> > end-node, only one circuit will be active. But others can<br>
>> exist, and<br>
>> > the<br>
>> > system will fall back to some other circuit if the active one<br>
>> goes<br>
>> > down.<br>
>> > So it can be used as a back connection.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > However, even as an end-node, you can have several *lines* <br>
>> on and<br>
>> > active<br>
>> > at the same time. And this is a trick to use if you want<br>
>> > DECnet-over-IP,<br>
>> > but want to be an endnode. You need ethernet for TCP/IP to<br>
>> work, but<br>
>> > you<br>
>> > do not want DECnet to use the ethernet circuit.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > But you configure one IP line as well, and that is the one<br>
>> DECnet will<br>
>> > be using. Meanwhile, TCP/IP is using the ethernet line.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > It might sound a little confusing, but think about it for a<br>
>> second, and<br>
>> > I hope it becomes clear. Otherwise, just ask, and I'll try to<br>
>> > explain it<br>
>> > better.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > > Also, you should define all the nodes you want to talk <br>
>> to with<br>
>> > NCP in<br>
>> > > one of the startup files or do it with CFE but I prefer<br>
>> startup<br>
>> > so it’s<br>
>> > > simple to change.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I would actually say that you wouldn't. Of course, there is<br>
>> nothing<br>
>> > wrong in doing this, but if you want the full HECnet nodename<br>
>> database,<br>
>> > it contains 700 nodes. That will take a while to type in.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > However, you can copy the nodename database from another<br>
>> DECnet node,<br>
>> > and then use this.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > But you need at least the nodename of someone where you will<br>
>> be copying<br>
>> > from to start with, which is why I suggested adding MIM at<br>
>> the start.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > After that, there is [5,54]NNC which is the nodename<br>
>> collector task.<br>
>> > Run<br>
>> > it, collect names from another node, and build a new database<br>
>> with<br>
>> > this.<br>
>> > Then stop and restart the node name server, and you have all<br>
>> the nodes<br>
>> > defined.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > (The node name server is managed by the command SCP.<br>
>> > So, SCP STOP followed by SCP START will do it.)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Johnny<br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
>> > Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus<br>
>> > || on a psychedelic trip<br>
>> > email: <a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a>><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a>>> ||<br>
>> > Reading murder books<br>
>> > pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" -<br>
>> B. Idol<br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
>> -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus<br>
>> || on a psychedelic trip<br>
>> email: <a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a>> || <br>
>> Reading murder books<br>
>> pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol<br>
>><br>
> <br>
<br>
-- <br>
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus<br>
|| on a psychedelic trip<br>
email: <a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a> || Reading murder books<br>
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol<br>
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