<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Thomas,<div><br></div><div>That’s very bad of TWENEX. Something needs to be done about it soon! Thanks for the script,</div><div><br></div><div>Supratim</div><div><div><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr"><div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">---</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Supratim Sanyal, W1XMT</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">39.19151 N, 77.23432 W</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">QCOCAL::SANYAL via <a href="http://www.update.uu.se/~bqt/hecnet.html">HECnet</a></span></div></div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Dec 18, 2019, at 3:18 AM, Johnny Billquist <<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se">bqt@softjar.se</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>I obviously try to always update my machines as soon as something changes.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I also automatically send mail to some people who have requested it whenever there has been a change, and it might be that some people have automated their updates based on this mail.</span><br><span></span><br><span>If anyone else wants a mail whenever the nodename database is updated, just let me know.</span><br><span></span><br><span> Johnny</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 2019-12-18 06:54, Thomas DeBellis wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>I finished my changes to FAL and DAPLIB to support ANONYMOUS usage on HECnet with some degree of security.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Naturally, the first thing I did was regression testing, both with one of my 20's and another 20 on HECnet (TWENEX). Unfortunately, I couldn't do anything on TWENEX because it didn't know about my node definitions, so NFT had no syntactical way to specify the connection (that I could remember). Intrigued, I went to a number of other 20's to see what a SYSTAT might show. Aside from the fact that most of them appeared down, none of them knew about either TOMMYT:: or VENTI2::... Well!!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>However, before I got too huffy, I wondered when the last time **I** updated was, the answer turning out to be "never"... Shame on me. So I knocked together a weekly batch job to pull a specially formatted node list from MIM::, suitable for swallowing by SETNOD (you have to have a RETURN statement at the end or you get an error which can blow up a batch job). This also allows me to track (somewhat) the comings and goings of nodes which is of interest.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>So the question is, how frequently are the rest of you updating and how are you doing it? My batch control file is below in case anyone with a 20 wants it.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Meanwhile, I am looking for a few volunteers to contact me off-list to do a little alpha testing before I post the code for ANONYMOUS usage.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@DayTime</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Enable</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Set Trap File</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Define OLDS: PS:<OLD-SYSTEM></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Rename SYSTEM:NODE-DATA.TXT OLDS:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@NFT</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*SET DEFAULTS MIM:: /USER:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*SET DEFAULTS MIM:: /PASSWORD:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*SET DEFAULTS MIM:: /ACCOUNT:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*DIR MIM::FIX.T20;0</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*COPY MIM::FIX.T20;0 SYSTEM:NODE-DATA.TXT</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*EXIT</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Define OLD: OLDS:NODE-DATA.TXT.0</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Define NEW: SYSTEM:NODE-DATA.TXT.0</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Define DIF: OLDS:NODE-DATA.DIF.-1</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@FILCOM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*DIF:=OLD:,NEW:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>=^Z</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@SETNOD</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*TAKE SYSTEM:NODE-DATA.TXT.0</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*SAVE</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*INSERT</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*EXIT</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Information DECnet</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@VD OLD:,NEW:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>WEEKLY:: @CHKPNT WEEKLY</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Submit GETNOD.CTL.0 -</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@ /After:+167:59:59 -</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@ /Assistance:Yes -</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@ /Batch-Log:Append -</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@ /LogDisposition:Keep -</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@ /LogName:GETNOD.LOG.0 -</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@ /Notify:No -</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@ /Output:NoLog -</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@ /Restartable:YES -</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@ /Time:00:01:00 -</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@ /Unique:No</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Goto END</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>%ERR::</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Original ERun NEW:MM.EXE.0</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*DayTime</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Send Nag</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*DECnet Node Update Error</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Go figure out what went wrong and restart the batch job</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*^Z</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*User-Header Importance High</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*User-Header Priority Urgent</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*User-Header X-Priority 1</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Erase Bcc</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Send</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Quit</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>END::</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Information (about) Batch-Requests</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Echo That's all folks!</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus</span><br><span> || on a psychedelic trip</span><br><span>email: <a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se">bqt@softjar.se</a> || Reading murder books</span><br><span>pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol</span><br></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>