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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> FWIW, you can’t/couldn’t do verification on an Ethernet circuit anyway. It only works on point to point links. Command completion may be smart enough to only show you the options that are applicable to your input so far, or maybe TOPS20 just doesn’t have it…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Thomas DeBellis<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 2, 2020 3:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> hecnet@Update.UU.SE<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [HECnet] Intermittent Connection with PyDECnet?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I appear to have neither </span><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>CIRCUIT VERIFICATION</span></tt><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> nor </span><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>NODE TRANSMIT PASSWORD</span></tt><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>, viz:</span><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>NCP>set cirCUIT ni-0 ? ALL<br> or one of the following:<br> ACTIVE BABBLE BLOCKING CHANNEL COST COUNTER DEAD<br> DTE DYING HELLO INACTIVE LINE LISTEN MAXIMUM<br> NUMBER OWNER POLLING RECALL ROUTER SERVICE STATE<br> TRANSMIT TRIBUTARY TYPE USAGE<br><br>NCP>set noDE venti2:: ? ALL<br> or one of the following:<br> ADDRESS CIRCUIT<br> or one of the following:<br> AREA BROADCAST BUFFER CONSOLE COUNTER<br> CPU DELAY DIAGNOSTIC DUMP HARDWARE<br> HOST IDENTIFICATION INACTIVITY INCOMING LOAD<br> MAXIMUM OUTGOING RETRANSMIT ROUTING SECONDARY<br> SEGMENT SERVICE SOFTWARE STATE SUBADDRESSES<br> TERTIARY TYPE</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I may be mis-remembering how our DN200 was configured. I believe the Top-20 NCP parser may have shared keyword tables with other DECnet implementations via BLISS at one point. Anyway, I recall at least some of it was BLISS. I haven't look in that particular box lately, but the parse tables appear to assembler now, with heavy uses of GLXMAC macros.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The Tops-20 operator interface has two 'sub-modes', as it were: NCP and LCP. NCP parses DECnet related keywords. LCP is used for LAT configuration. The operator subsystem is kind of neat; OPR parsers send packets to Orion, a communications server and router. It notes an NCP subset and routes that to NMLT20 which contains just what you think it would.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Early versions of NMLT20 (about 1980) appeared insufficiently productized. It could hang in a loop or (more frequently) crash for no readily apparent reason. We submitted a rather large number of SPR's... However, it's quite stable now; I don't believe I've had a single crash. I have yet to come to a fully informed conclusion about the lexical interface; I sometimes get the impression that it parses for more than it can actually do.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Elsewhere in Tops-20, DECnet implementation is a mixed bag; most of the monitor code appears finished; I go months without reboots and that is with active development. The user mode code is another matter entirely. I had my hands full fixing a number of issues with DAP and FAL. It was <i>invaluable</i> having heterogeneous HECnet nodes to test against, RSX 11M+ and VMS. SETNOD needs some finishing and perhaps some additional functionality. I have yet to look at FTS; I don't see how it can get or generate any traffic at all. The monitor interface (NFT:) does not appear to be operational. Elsewhere (perhaps Galaxy) appears to have no submission interface. Johnny and I have some minor tweaks to flush out with MAIL11 (in addition to the changes that I've already put in).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 3/2/20 3:25 PM, Robert Armstrong wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p><span style='color:#1F497D'>></span>I don't see where I would set an id and password in 7-1-CONFIG or in NCP.<o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Don’t know about TOPS-20, but in NCP/NICE/NML it’s</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> SET CIRCUIT … VERIFICATION ENABLED</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>and</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> SET NODE … TRANSMIT PASSWORD …</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The password the remote node sends has to match the one that’s associated with that node in the local DECnet database.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bob</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></body></html>