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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I wonder how long it’ll be before VSI goes the way of SCO and eventually owned mostly by lawyers who persuaded the executives that hounding the hobbyists was the most profitable thing
to do….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Cunningham<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 March 2020 19:27<br>
<b>To:</b> hecnet@Update.UU.SE<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [HECnet] HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>It sounds like a real shame. A lot of programmers have developed some much for openvms, and now they are just going to stop it. To bring VMS up to date so to speak; that would be "artistic" ownership under federal law. A wall owner was just sued over tearing
down his wall that graffiti artists drew on. It's not all just HP here.<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 3/7/2020 1:58 PM, William Pechter wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The cost of a VMS Vax license would probably be more than a license for later hardware and the hardware.
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There's been no bug fixes to the last Vax versions and if you get the Vax license - - if offered - - the ability to keep the HW running gets harder yearly.
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A multi thousand dollar/yr license to run on Simh would suck. $50/Yr might be doable for a hobby. Perhaps someone could propose something so VSI could offset costs.
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Bill<br>
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<span style="color:#888888">Sent from <a href="mailto:pechter@gmail.com">pechter@gmail.com</a></span><br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Bill Cunningham <a href="mailto:bill.cu@suddenlink.net"><bill.cu@suddenlink.net></a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:hecnet@Update.UU.SE">hecnet@Update.UU.SE</a><br>
Sent: Sat, 07 Mar 2020 13:50<br>
Subject: Re: [HECnet] HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I have received t too. They say ifyou want long term licenses, buy it! dig out the coins.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 3/7/2020 2:12 AM, Rob Jarratt wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Yes, I have received it too. I think this is just corporate speak for saying that they are closing the hobbyist licensing program, presumably because they no longer support VMS. I think they should
officially release the PAK tool, or allow hobbyists to request non-expiring licenses (although that wouldn’t help new hobbyists).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Rob</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE">
owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE</a> <a href="mailto:owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE"><owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Moylan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 March 2020 05:14<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:hecnet@Update.UU.SE">hecnet@Update.UU.SE</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [HECnet] HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Hi all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Just received the e-mail below. I’ve hunted around all the various Hobbyist locations and licensing pages and can’t find any additional information.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">I’ve already replied back to ask what the impact of Hobbyist renewal licensing will be. I have no further information at this stage.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Have others received this as well? Does anyone have any further knowledge on this?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">I can see a few people have forwarded/posted the same message on comp.os.vms.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Cheers, Wiz!!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> OpenVMS Customer Lab [<a href="mailto:openvmscustomerlab@hpe.com">mailto:openvmscustomerlab@hpe.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 7 March 2020 3:13 PM<br>
<b>Cc:</b> OpenVMS Customer Lab<br>
<b>Subject:</b> OpenVMS Hobbyist Notification</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear HPE OpenVMS hobbyist,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This is to inform you that HPE is concluding the HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program in alignment with the HPE OpenVMS support roadmap.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">If you wish to understand more details, please reach out to us at the earliest through the usual license renewal webpage.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">HPE OpenVMS team</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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