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<p>It sounds like a real shame. A lot of programmers have developed
some much for openvms, and now they are just going to stop it. To
bring VMS up to date so to speak; that would be "artistic"
ownership under federal law. A wall owner was just sued over
tearing down his wall that graffiti artists drew on. It's not all
just HP here.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/7/2020 1:58 PM, William Pechter
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<div>The cost of a VMS Vax license would probably be more than a
license for later hardware and the hardware. <br>
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There's been no bug fixes to the last Vax versions and if you
get the Vax license - - if offered - - the ability to keep the
HW running gets harder yearly. <br>
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A multi thousand dollar/yr license to run on Simh would suck.
$50/Yr might be doable for a hobby. Perhaps someone could
propose something so VSI could offset costs. <br>
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Bill<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Bill Cunningham <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bill.cu@suddenlink.net"><bill.cu@suddenlink.net></a><br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:hecnet@Update.UU.SE">hecnet@Update.UU.SE</a><br>
Sent: Sat, 07 Mar 2020 13:50<br>
Subject: Re: [HECnet] HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is
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<p>I have received t too. They say ifyou want long term licenses,
buy it! dig out the coins.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/7/2020 2:12 AM, Rob Jarratt
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Yes,
I have received it too. I think this is just corporate
speak for saying that they are closing the hobbyist
licensing program, presumably because they no longer
support VMS. I think they should officially release the
PAK tool, or allow hobbyists to request non-expiring
licenses (although that wouldn’t help new hobbyists).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Rob<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Moylan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 March 2020 05:14<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:hecnet@Update.UU.SE"
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<b>Subject:</b> [HECnet] HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist
license program is closing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Just received the
e-mail below. I’ve hunted around all the various
Hobbyist locations and licensing pages and can’t find
any additional information.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">I’ve already replied
back to ask what the impact of Hobbyist renewal
licensing will be. I have no further information at this
stage.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Have others received
this as well? Does anyone have any further knowledge on
this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">I can see a few
people have forwarded/posted the same message on
comp.os.vms.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Cheers, Wiz!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US"> OpenVMS Customer Lab [<a
href="mailto:openvmscustomerlab@hpe.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:openvmscustomerlab@hpe.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 7 March 2020 3:13 PM<br>
<b>Cc:</b> OpenVMS Customer Lab<br>
<b>Subject:</b> OpenVMS Hobbyist Notification<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear HPE OpenVMS
hobbyist,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This is to inform
you that HPE is concluding the HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist
license program in alignment with the HPE OpenVMS
support roadmap. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">If you wish to
understand more details, please reach out to us at the
earliest through the usual license renewal webpage.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">HPE OpenVMS team<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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