<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>Ah...here are the test system (HERMES) operator log messages (notice the 31-JAN-1977 00:00:06.21 timestamp):<br></div><div><br></div><div>$ START /NETWORK DECNET<br></div><div>%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 27-DEC-2022 16:41:31.22 %%%%%%%%%%%<br></div><div>Message from user DECNET on HERMES<br></div><div>DECnet starting<br></div><div><br></div><div>%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 00000125<br></div><div>%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of MOM$SYSTEM has been superseded<br></div><div>%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of MOM$SYSTEM_NOSOFTID has been superseded<br></div><div>%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of MOM$SYSTEM_SOFTID has been superseded<br></div><div>%NCP-I-NOINFO, No information in database<br></div><div>%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 00000127<br></div><div>$<br></div><div>%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 27-DEC-2022 16:41:36.76 %%%%%%%%%%%<br></div><div>Message from user DECNET on HERMES<br></div><div>DECnet event 4.10, circuit up<br></div><div>From node 2.404 (HERMES), 31-JAN-1977 00:00:06.21<br></div><div>Circuit EWA-0<br></div><div><br></div><div>$<br></div><div>%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 27-DEC-2022 16:41:41.87 %%%%%%%%%%%<br></div><div>Message from user DECNET on HERMES<br></div><div>DECnet event 4.15, adjacency up<br></div><div>From node 2.404 (HERMES), 31-JAN-1977 00:00:06.21<br></div><div>Circuit EWA-0, Adjacent node = 2.400 (APOLLO)<br></div><div><br></div><div>And from APOLLO adjacent node (down/up when DECnet cycled):<br></div><div><br></div><div>APOLLO-><br></div><div>%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 27-DEC-2020 16:31:27.60 %%%%%%%%%%%<br></div><div>Message from user DECNET on APOLLO<br></div><div>DECnet event 4.18, adjacency down<br></div><div>From node 2.400 (APOLLO), 27-DEC-2020 16:31:27.59<br></div><div>Circuit EWA-0, Adjacent node listener receive timeout<br></div><div>Adjacent node = 2.404 (HERMES)<br></div><div><br></div><div>APOLLO-><br></div><div>%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 27-DEC-2020 16:42:33.54 %%%%%%%%%%%<br></div><div>Message from user DECNET on APOLLO<br></div><div>DECnet event 4.15, adjacency up<br></div><div>From node 2.400 (APOLLO), 27-DEC-2020 16:42:33.54<br></div><div>Circuit EWA-0, Adjacent node = 2.404 (HERMES)<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Paul Koning wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style="overflow-wrap:break-word;"><div>That doesn't fully answer the question. What you see is the system log, which presumably uses VMS time stamps. Those have a wide range. The question is what the DECnet events would show, when encoded in the NICE protocol. If you configure it to send events (like node reachable or circuit up) to another node, what do the timestamps look like on that other node?<br></div><div class="qt-"><br></div><div class="qt-"><div><span class="qt-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre;"></span>paul<br></div><div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="qt-"><div class="qt-">On Dec 27, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Jason Brady <<a href="mailto:jr_brady@fastmail.com" class="qt-">jr_brady@fastmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-"><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-">Booted test Alpha system running OpenVMS 8.4 and set the date to 27-DEC-2022. Started DECnet Phase IV. No errors.<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-">From node APOLLO, no problem transferring files from the test system and displaying network info (TELL ... SHOW EXEC, etc.).<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-">Snippet from test system NML$SERVER.LOG:<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"> --------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"> Connect request received at 27-DEC-2022 16:29:25.54<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"> from remote process APOLLO::"0=JASON"<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"> for object "SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]NML.EXE"<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"> --------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-">Snippet from test system FAL$SERVER.LOG:<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"> --------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"> Connect request received at 27-DEC-2022 16:26:56.85<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"> from remote process APOLLO::"0=JASON"<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"> for object "SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]FAL.EXE"<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"> --------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-">Is the above satisfactory, at least for OpenVMS Alpha?<span class="qt-Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-">Regards,<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-">Jason<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-">On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Robert Armstrong wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt-qt" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-moz-text-size-adjust:auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;text-decoration-thickness:auto;" class="qt-"><div class="qt-">> John Forecast wrote:<br></div><div class="qt-">>DECnet event logging for any system may fail after Nov 9th 2021. <br></div><div class="qt-"><br></div><div class="qt-"> Oh, that's a much bigger deal! Do you happen to know if VMS handles this field as unsigned?? A lot of people here are going to be bummed if VMS quits working next fall...<br></div><div class="qt-"><br></div><div class="qt-">Bob<br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></body></html>