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    <p>DDP?  I thought it was DUP-11.<br>
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          <hr width="100%" size="2">On 1/15/21 4:21 PM, Peter Lothberg
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          Well, MRC was receiving "suggestions" from Stu Grossman on how
          to do it, but<br>
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        <div>if my memory does not fail me the block size was 312, due
          to lack of buffer space<br data-mce-bogus="1">
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        <div>in the already crammed single section 512KW 2020. I'm
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        <div>are in Seattle. I knew it was not 576 as it had two
          DUP-11's and using it for transit failed... <br
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        <div>Quiz, do you knew what a DDP is?<br data-mce-bogus="1">
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        <div>-P<br data-mce-bogus="1">
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            </b>"tommytimesharing" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tommytimesharing@gmail.com"><tommytimesharing@gmail.com></a><br>
            <b>To: </b>"hecnet" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:hecnet@Update.UU.SE"><hecnet@Update.UU.SE></a><br>
            <b>Sent: </b>Friday, January 15, 2021 3:59:25 PM<br>
            <b>Subject: </b>Re: [HECnet] Thousands of DECnet errors on
            Tops-20<br>
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            <p>Was this maybe that magical version 5 of Tops-20 that MRC
              put together for the 2020?  I sure would love to see the
              sources for that!  I'm not sure if this is relevant, but
              the following macro in D36COM is of interest:<br>
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            <blockquote><font size="+1"><tt>DEFINE KNMMCS,<</tt><tt><br>
                </tt><tt>;              Symbol,Name,Cost, Maximum
                  receive block size</tt><tt><br>
                </tt><tt>        KNMMAC LD.TST,TST,  1, 
                  0                       ;TST DEVICE</tt><tt><br>
                </tt><tt>        KNMMAC LD.DTE,DTE,  3, 
                  <^D576>                 ;DTE DEVICE</tt><tt><br>
                </tt><tt>        KNMMAC LD.KDP,KDP,  4, 
                  <^D576>                 ;KDP DEVICE</tt><tt><br>
                </tt><tt>        KNMMAC LD.DDP,DDP,  5, 
                  <^D576>                 ;DDP DEVICE</tt><tt><br>
                </tt><tt>        KNMMAC LD.CIP,CI,   2, 
                  <^D576>                 ;CI DEVICE</tt><tt><br>
                </tt><tt>        KNMMAC LD.NI ,NI,   1, 
                  <^D1504-%RTEHS>         ;NI DEVICE</tt><tt><br>
                </tt><tt>        KNMMAC LD.DMR,DMR,  2, 
                  <^D576>                 ;DMR DEVICE</tt><tt><br>
                </tt><tt>>;END OF KNMMCS</tt></font><br>
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            <p>What can be seen is that the maximum block size is 576 in
              <u>all</u> cases except the NI, which is 1476 bytes.  I
              don't know if any of these devices are relevant to the
              2020; one assumes that the DTE, CI and NI are not.<br>
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                  <hr width="100%" size="2">On 1/12/21 3:29 PM, Peter
                  Lothberg wrote:<br>
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                  The DECnet segment size has to be the same "network
                  wide".<br>
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                <div>If I remember right DECnet looks at the two end
                  nodes and uses the smalles segment size, <br>
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                <div>so if there is any transit node in the path with a
                  small segment size things will not work as <br>
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                <div>it will drop packets bigger than it''s size.<br>
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                <div>The only SW/HW combination I knew of that has other
                  than 576 is MRC/Stu DECnet for <br>
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                <div>Tops20 4.x on DEC2020.<br>
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                <div>-P<br>
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