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<p>Thanks, I'll go have a look.</p>
<p>I was thinking about the <font size="4"><tt>duplicity</tt></font>
utility, but I didn't feel like learning it or relearning <font
size="4"><tt>tar</tt></font> and friends. Really, the only time
I want to be bothered with Linux is either when somebody pays me
to look at it or I need to fix (or enhance) something in KLH10.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">What I would be doing would be backing
up everything <u>except</u> the Tops-20 disks. The two reasons
for that is that a native backup gets you a consistent save set as
opposed to a bit being in the wrong place in the file system when
grabbing data from the 'raw' disk. Further, it enables me to find
and fix bugs with the Tops-20 Backup/Archive utility (<font
size="4"><tt>DUMPER</tt></font>), fixing Tops-20 bugs being my
odd idea of fun.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Right now, I've encountered the
situation that previous versions of save sets appear to always set
the <font size="4"><tt>SECURE</tt></font> bit, which is not
something you want.</div>
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<hr width="100%" size="2">On 10/18/21 11:53 AM, Zane Healy wrote:
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Take a look at Veeam, specifically the “Community Edition”. You
should also be able to take a look at the "Veeam Agent for
Linux”, as you can simply run it on your Linux box, and point it
at an NFS share or USB disk. The community edition of Veeam
Backup and Recovery allows you to backup 10 Physical or Virtual
systems for free. It’s only downside is that it needs to run on
Windows.</div>
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<div class="">I do nightly Veeam backups of all the VMware VM’s
that run my virtual DEC systems. This has saved me in at least
one case.</div>
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<div class="">Bare metal Veeam restores are an option, since you
asked about “Bare Metal”, but that’s something I’ve not tested.</div>
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<hr width="100%" size="2">On Oct 17, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Thomas
DeBellis <<a href="mailto:tommytimesharing@gmail.com"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">tommytimesharing@gmail.com</a>>
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class="" color="red">Fourth</font></b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(and final)
concerns RAID in an indirect way. My Tops-20 systems
are backed up on a quarterly basis and those backups
compressed and moved to alternate storage. However, I
have never backed up any of the Ubuntu systems and,
although I am running SSD media, some of this is quite
old and I'm starting to feel uncomfortable out it.</font></div>
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<p class=""><font size="4">Were you aware of any winning
backup solutions? I can restore Tops-20 to bare
metal, but I really don't remember how to do this for
Unix (although I did know it for Ultrix at one
point). So I starting looking. Déjà Dup looks like
it won't quite do what I need, but since it uses
duplicity, I started looking at that.<br class="">
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text-decoration: none;"><font size="4">Remember, even a
RAID is no substitute for backup. This was probably
more true in the days where a hardware RAID controller
error introduced a single point of failure; it may still
be true for a software RAID.</font></div>
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