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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I installed 'latd' (apt install latd), started up with latcp -s and it's picked up all the LAT services on the LAN, including itself, the RX4640, <b>the KLH10 instance of Panda TOPS-20</b>... looks fine too. Identifies its connections as the hostname and tty, such as "PI3B3//dev/ttyAMA0"</pre>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I used the Windows 95 version of Kermit
on Windows 2000 for many years because of the LAT support. It
functioned <u>flawlessly</u> to a KLH10 instance of PANDA
Tops-20, always.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Really wish I could find the CD-ROM
with the LAT drivers for Windows...<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/8/21 4:00 PM, Keith Halewood
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">It's apparently 5.10.77-v7+.
It eventually goes a bit wrong responding to NICE requests with VMS complaining 'invalid management response' but the output showing a '...such file or directory' but I'll try some troubleshooting tomorrow.
I installed 'latd' (apt install latd), started up with latcp -s and it's picked up all the LAT services on the LAN, including itself, the RX4640, the KLH10 instance of Panda TOPS-20... looks fine too. Identifies its connections as the hostname and tty, such as "PI3B3//dev/ttyAMA0"
Keith
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] Is this the most up to date version of DECnet OS numbers?
Glad it’s working for you. Is this running the latest Raspbian release? What kernel version is it running?
John.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Nov 8, 2021, at 12:21 PM, Keith Halewood <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Keith.Halewood@pitbulluk.org"><Keith.Halewood@pitbulluk.org></a> wrote:
Well, that was an interesting compilation of the raspbian kernel.
I cloned <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/JohnForecast/RaspbianDECnet">https://github.com/JohnForecast/RaspbianDECnet</a> and got busy. I had to remove the --help-- stanzas from the Kconfig file. They were tripping something up.
I had to move the MAC address change to the bridge (I use
/etc/network/interfaces with bridges and taps etc..)
DECnet is all working on a 32bit raspbian on a pi3b+, HECnet node name
29.115 - I'll christen it at some point :) Thank you John Forecast for doing all the hard work.
Keith
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] Is this the most up to date version of DECnet OS numbers?
On 2021-11-07 18:06, Robert Armstrong wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I think DECnet/8 is for RTS-8, but there never was one for OS-8.
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Yes, the DECnet-8 was for RTS although you could run OS/8 as a task
under RTS (so maybe those two count as the same). In any case AFAIK
there was never any NFT or FAL or remote terminal or NCP/NML or
anything else like that implemented for DECnet/8. It was more of a
toolkit kind of thing where you could write your own RTS program to
make a DECnet connection to another node. What you sent over that connection was your problem.
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Right. It was/is slightly more than a toolkit. It does have a couple of processes which deals with circuits and executor management. And I think there is TLK/LSN so you can communicate. But beyond that, you were on your own.
And no, OS/8 under RTS-8 don't allow them to be counted as one. :-)
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> Never heard of DECnet for CP/M although there certainly was one for MSDOS.
Linux is interesting, although I doubt that was put there by DEC.
Probably somebody added it later.
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Linux was definitely defined post-DEC. I simply just talked with a Linux FAL from RSX and checked what value it put in the OS field, and added that to my list from there.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> And what the heck is COPOS/11?? I see that is says TOPS-20 front
end, but I thought TOPS20 used the same RSX20F as TOPS10.
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I don't think it's the same as the RSX20F frontend. I have no idea what it is, but it's in the source files for the RSX DECnet code. Sounds like some oddball thing that existed somewhere. CSS thing maybe?
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> And DTF/MVS? Is that the IBM OS MVS?
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I almost suspect it might be, but again, no real clue. All I can say is that this is what is in the RSX sources.
Johnny
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