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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Most of today’s experimentation is due to the mention of linux around DECnet and LAT… It’ll give the VT510 I have a little bit of freedom
with a serial console to a tiny little Pi and then on, via DECnet or LAT to the rest of the kit, simulated and real. Now all I have to do is stop pronouncing ‘llogin’ (set host/lat) in the Welsh fashion, ll being a voiceless L sound.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Tony – it’s all there in John’s git repo, see below:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Keith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Nicholson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 November 2021 21:31<br>
<b>To:</b> HECnet Mailing-list <hecnet@update.uu.se><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [HECnet] Is this the most up to date version of DECnet OS numbers?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've been running latd on my Raspberry Pi 4 for a while (the default install starts up using the hostname as a service name).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From OpenVMS LATCP it shows up as -<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">LATCP> show service pi5<br>
LAT Control Program<br>
Service Name: PI5<br>
Service Status: Available<br>
Service Ident: Linux 5.10.63-v7l+<br>
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Node Name Status Rating Identification<br>
PI5 Reachable 10 Linux 5.10.63-v7l+<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would you care to share your RaspbianDECnet mods Keith? I'd like to try this too.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The other question to me is - should I pioneer this using the just released Raspberry Pi OS Debian Bullseye? I think I might!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tony<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 4:22 AM Keith Halewood <<a href="mailto:Keith.Halewood@pitbulluk.org">Keith.Halewood@pitbulluk.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Well, that was an interesting compilation of the raspbian kernel.<br>
I cloned <a href="https://github.com/JohnForecast/RaspbianDECnet" target="_blank">
https://github.com/JohnForecast/RaspbianDECnet</a> and got busy. I had to remove the --help-- stanzas from the Kconfig file. They were tripping something up.<br>
I had to move the MAC address change to the bridge (I use /etc/network/interfaces with bridges and taps etc..)<br>
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DECnet is all working on a 32bit raspbian on a pi3b+, HECnet node name 29.115 - I'll christen it at some point :)<br>
Thank you John Forecast for doing all the hard work.<br>
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Keith<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE" target="_blank">owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE" target="_blank">owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE</a>] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist<br>
Sent: 07 November 2021 20:37<br>
To: <a href="mailto:hecnet@Update.UU.SE" target="_blank">hecnet@Update.UU.SE</a><br>
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Is this the most up to date version of DECnet OS numbers?<br>
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On 2021-11-07 18:06, Robert Armstrong wrote:<br>
>> I think DECnet/8 is for RTS-8, but there never was one for OS-8.<br>
> <br>
> Yes, the DECnet-8 was for RTS although you could run OS/8 as a task <br>
> under RTS (so maybe those two count as the same). In any case AFAIK <br>
> there was never any NFT or FAL or remote terminal or NCP/NML or <br>
> anything else like that implemented for DECnet/8. It was more of a <br>
> toolkit kind of thing where you could write your own RTS program to <br>
> make a DECnet connection to another node. What you sent over that connection was your problem.<br>
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Right. It was/is slightly more than a toolkit. It does have a couple of processes which deals with circuits and executor management. And I think there is TLK/LSN so you can communicate. But beyond that, you were on your own.<br>
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And no, OS/8 under RTS-8 don't allow them to be counted as one. :-)<br>
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> Never heard of DECnet for CP/M although there certainly was one for MSDOS.<br>
> Linux is interesting, although I doubt that was put there by DEC. <br>
> Probably somebody added it later.<br>
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Linux was definitely defined post-DEC. I simply just talked with a Linux FAL from RSX and checked what value it put in the OS field, and added that to my list from there.<br>
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> And what the heck is COPOS/11?? I see that is says TOPS-20 front <br>
> end, but I thought TOPS20 used the same RSX20F as TOPS10.<br>
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I don't think it's the same as the RSX20F frontend. I have no idea what it is, but it's in the source files for the RSX DECnet code. Sounds like some oddball thing that existed somewhere. CSS thing maybe?<br>
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> And DTF/MVS? Is that the IBM OS MVS?<br>
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I almost suspect it might be, but again, no real clue. All I can say is that this is what is in the RSX sources.<br>
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Johnny<br>
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-- <br>
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus<br>
|| on a psychedelic trip<br>
email: <a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" target="_blank">bqt@softjar.se</a> || Reading murder books<br>
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol<o:p></o:p></p>
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