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<p>Hmmm... That's very close to the Tops-20 format of SET NODE a.b
<font size="4"><tt>NAME</tt></font> C::, so Johnny would write
that in FIX.T20 as<br>
</p>
<p><font size="4"><tt>set node 1.1 name MAGICA</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt>set node 1.2 name ERNIE</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt>set node 1.3 name FNATTE</tt></font><br>
</p>
<p>It would be trivial for me to create an invisible synonym for <font
size="4"><tt>SET</tt></font> named "<font size="4"><tt>DEFINE</tt></font>"
which perhaps means that I might be able to handle the VMS file,
assuming all only contains are <font size="4"><tt>DEFINE</tt></font>
commands. BUT... The standard DEC <font size="4"><tt>SETNOD</tt></font>
would choke on such a file for two reasons:</p>
<ol>
<li>It doesn't know about the "<font size="4"><tt>DEFINE</tt></font>"
verb.</li>
<li>It signals end of file by going into an endless loop. The
file HAS to be terminated with a <font size="4"><tt>RETURN</tt></font>
statement.</li>
</ol>
<p>The rewrite gracefully handles end of file by closing the it and
going to command level; basically doing the same thing that <font
size="4"><tt>RETURN</tt></font> would do. It occurs to me that
some sort of a standardized format would have been A Good Idea,
but I don't know how close they got to that.</p>
<p>I don't see anything in there for Tops-10. What does it do?<br>
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<hr width="100%" size="2">On 11/11/21 9:05 AM, Paul Koning wrote:<br>
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RSTS wants a DCL command file that looks like this:
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ncp</span></div>
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line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco;" class=""><span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">def
node 1.1 name MAGICA</span></div>
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line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco;" class=""><span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">def
node 1.2 name ERNIE</span></div>
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line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco;" class=""><span
style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">def
node 1.3 name FNATTE</span></div>
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no-common-ligatures" class="">...</span></div>
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<div class="">On Nov 11, 2021, at 3:53 AM, Johnny Billquist
<<a href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">bqt@softjar.se</a>>
wrote:</div>
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0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">If a specific format is needed for
RSTS/E nodes, I can create that format file whenever the
nodename database is updated. Just let me know what the
format should be.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0,
0, 0); font-family: LucidaConsole; font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
LucidaConsole; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">At the moment, the following files
are created:</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: LucidaConsole; font-size: 12px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
LucidaConsole; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
LucidaConsole; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">FIX.T20 (for TOPS-20)</span><br
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LucidaConsole; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
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0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
LucidaConsole; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">HECNET.PY (for PyDECnet)</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">FIX.CMD (for RSX)</span><br
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<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
LucidaConsole; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">All can be found at MIM::HECNET:</span><br
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
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<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
LucidaConsole; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
LucidaConsole; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class=""> Johnny</span><br
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
LucidaConsole; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
LucidaConsole; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">On 2021-11-11 02:20, Supratim
Sanyal wrote:</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0,
0); font-family: LucidaConsole; font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
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class="">Maybe helpful to someone, the latest node
database can now be synced up on RSTS/E using
RST101::DEFNOD.CMD<br class="">
RST101 is at 31.28<br class="">
best,<br class="">
/s.<br class="">
On 11/10/21 7:42 PM, Tony Nicholson wrote:<br class="">
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 at 11:31, Supratim Sanyal <<a
href="mailto:supratim@riseup.net"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">supratim@riseup.net</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
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Copied from GALAH, the copy at DINGO doesn't have
read permission.<br class="">
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Fixed permissions - I thought I had protected them
against writing/not reading. Blame finger memory not
engaging with my brain.<br class="">
<br class="">
Tony<br class="">
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Tony Nicholson <<a
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
LucidaConsole; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">Johnny Billquist
|| "I'm on a bus</span><br
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class=""> ||
on a psychedelic trip</span><br style="caret-color:
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12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align:
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class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
LucidaConsole; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">email:<span
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href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se" style="font-family:
LucidaConsole; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">bqt@softjar.se</a><span
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
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Reading murder books</span><br style="caret-color:
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class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">pdp is alive!
|| tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol</span></div>
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