<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Version 2 is far more robust if you can find a copy. My gateway is still down … it may be some time before it returns. It takes the raw nodenames.dat file , parses it and creates a “.com” procedure. All the logic is in netupdatev2.com. The resulting procedure is dumb but gets the job done. It can be submitted to batch. It does define and set. <div><br></div><div>I’ll see what I can come up with for RSTS/E this weekend based on similar logic and post it. When PLUTO:: or ARK:: (yes Paul, ARK::) return to the network it will be in the default DECnet account on those systems as well as on node SGC::.</div><div><br></div><div>FYI: Like DEC, ARK:: is an 11/70 with 2 of “everything” except running under SimH. It also has most sources (not DECnet unfortunately though… SIGH…)<br><br><div dir="ltr">-Steve<div><br></div><div>SF:IP2</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 11, 2021, at 13:24, Supratim Sanyal <supratim@riseup.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<p>On 11/11/21 7:14 AM, Steve Davidson wrote:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">NETUPDATE.COM (VMS only) checks two things: first it checks the record against the current node name and if equal skips the record. Second, if the database is being run against a cluster then it additionally ignores all of the nodes in that area. This way all of the Satellite information is not altered thus rendering satellite boot non functional.
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<p>Yes - I am a major user of NETUPDATE.COM. Runs weekly to sync up
IMPVAX with MIM, and runs on many VAXen to sync from IMPVAX.
Thanks Steve.<br>
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<p><b><font face="monospace">$! NETUPDATE.COM<br>
$!<br>
$! Version: V1.0-004<br>
$!<br>
$!<br>
$! Edit history:<br>
$!<br>
$! 16-Jun-2010 15:45 S. Davidson 004 - add logicals and
auto-update<br>
$! 14-Jun-2010 11:30 S. Davidson 003 - procedure no
longer returns<br>
$! specific file
version - allows<br>
$! NETUPDATE.COM to
be updated in<br>
$! place<br>
$! 14-Jun-2010 11:06 S. Davidson 002 - Fixed "on error"
syntax<br>
$! 03-Jun-2010 00:00 S. Davidson 001 - Initial creation</font></b></p>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Similar behavior for the first case could probably be applied in most of the command line interpreters.
-Steve
SF:IP2
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Nov 11, 2021, at 06:30, Johnny Billquist <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se"><bqt@softjar.se></a> wrote:
Tony,
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On 2021-11-11 10:30, Tony Nicholson wrote:
Johnny,
Under RSTS/E I’ve found I can use FIX.CMD, but I have to comment the definition for the current node and add a missing definition for MIM.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Ah. Yes, similar "problem" as with RSX in that the own node won't work. That's the reason MIM is not in there. I should create a different one for others. FIX.CMD is where I started, and it is very tailored to my own use.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Then duplicate the definitions changing the ‘def nod’ to ‘set nod’ and feed it into NCP.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Maybe you should look at FIX.COM?
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">When I update pydecnet using a new nodenames.dat I also use
$ ncp copy known nodes from TNRTR to both
(TNRTR Is my pydecnet router)
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">That definitely works in VMS. Does that also work in RSTS/E?
With that said, while generated command files are all nice and good, for at least VMS and RSX, I would actually recommend people use the provided DECnet tools instead.
In RSX:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">RUN LB:[5,54]NNCFSL
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">and collect the nodes from MIM, and then:
SCP STOP
SCP START
and you have the new nodenames in there.
In VMS (as mentioned above):
$ NCP COPY KNOWN NODES FROM MIM TO BOTH
If the VMS solution also works in RSTS/E that is really nice.
Johnny
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 at 19:54, Johnny Billquist <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se">bqt@softjar.se</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bqt@softjar.se"><mailto:bqt@softjar.se></a>> wrote:
If a specific format is needed for RSTS/E nodes, I can create that
format file whenever the nodename database is updated. Just let me know
what the format should be.
At the moment, the following files are created:
FIX.T20 (for TOPS-20)
FIX.COM <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://FIX.COM"><http://FIX.COM></a> (for VMS)
HECNET.PY (for PyDECnet)
FIX.CMD (for RSX)
All can be found at MIM::HECNET:
Johnny
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