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    <p>Yeah, I agree that if no cert is specified it shouldn't enable
      HTTPS. That's what I assumed would happen. :)</p>
    <p>-brian<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/11/21 14:26, Paul Koning wrote:<br>
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      I think so.  It will obviously fail later on, but it looks like
      the bind happens before it realizes that it has no cert.  If you
      don't want https, add --https-port 0.
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      <div class="">I suppose I should force that if no cert is
        specified, that would be logical.<br class="">
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              <div class="">On Nov 17, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Brian Hechinger
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                  <p class="">Even without a cert specified?</p>
                  <p class="">-brian<br class="">
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                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/11/21 14:06, Paul
                    Koning wrote:<br class="">
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                    You have both http and https enabled (both are
                    enabled by default) so it will try to bind ports
                    8000 and 8443.
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                          <div class="">On Nov 17, 2021, at 8:09 AM,
                            Brian Hechinger <<a
                              href="mailto:wonko@4amlunch.net"
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                              knew I forgot something. Trying to rush
                              the email out.</p>
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                                  style="background-color: rgb(255, 255,
                                  255);" class="">system
                                  --identification "PyDECnet, A52RTR -
                                  Quarteira, Portugal"<span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br
                                  class="">
                                routing 52.1023 --type l2router<span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                                logging console<span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                                @nodes.conf<span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                  class="">
                                circuit mul-29-2 Multinet --mode connect
                                --destination 82.70.71.174 --dest-port
                                9608 --cost 4 --t3 180<span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                  class="">
                                #circuit eth-0 Ethernet internal --mode
                                pcap --cost 1<br class="">
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                              </span>http.conf:</p>
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                                  --insecure-api</span><br class="">
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                              </span>-brian<br class="">
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                              text-decoration: none;">On 17/11/21 13:06,
                              Wilm Boerhout wrote:<br class="">
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                                    file please ?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                      class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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                                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext
                                        moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                        href="mailto:owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE</a><span
                                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                        class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                        href="mailto:owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"><owner-hecnet@Update.UU.SE></a><span
                                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b
                                        class="">On Behalf Of<span
                                          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Brian
                                      Hechinger<br class="">
                                      <b class="">Sent:</b><span
                                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday,
                                      November 17, 2021 2:02 PM<br
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                                      <b class="">To:</b><span
                                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext
                                        moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                        href="mailto:hecnet@Update.UU.SE"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">hecnet@Update.UU.SE</a><br
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                                      <b class="">Subject:</b><span
                                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[HECnet]
                                      PyDECnet setup<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                <p class="">That other thread is getting
                                  out of hand so I'll start a new one.<o:p
                                    class=""></o:p></p>
                                <p class="">I've started getting this
                                  error:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                                <p class=""><span class="">Exception in
                                    thread https:<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
                                    class=""><br class="">
                                    Traceback (most recent call last):<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                      class="">
                                     File
                                    "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py",
                                    line 932, in _bootstrap_inner<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                      class="">
                                       self.run()<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                      class="">
                                     File
                                    "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py",
                                    line 870, in run<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                      class="">
                                       self._target(*self._args,
                                    **self._kwargs)<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                      class="">
                                     File
"/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/decnet-1.0.592-py3.8.egg/decnet/http.py",
                                    line 103, in serverstart<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                      class="">
                                       httpd = DECnetMonitor
                                    (server_addr, DECnetMonitorRequest,<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                      class="">
                                     File
"/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/decnet-1.0.592-py3.8.egg/decnet/http.py",
                                    line 126, in __init__<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                      class="">
                                       self.socket =
                                    source_addr.create_server ()<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                      class="">
                                     File
"/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/decnet-1.0.592-py3.8.egg/decnet/host.py",
                                    line 399, in create_server<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                      class="">
                                       sock = self.bind_socket
                                    (self.listen_family)<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                      class="">
                                     File
"/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/decnet-1.0.592-py3.8.egg/decnet/host.py",
                                    line 387, in bind_socket<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                      class="">
                                       sock.bind (self.sockaddr)<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                      class="">
                                    OSError: [Errno 98] Address already
                                    in use<br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                  </span>Neither lsof nor netstat show
                                  that port in use. Doesn't matter if I
                                  use the default 8000 or set something
                                  different, I get that every time.<o:p
                                    class=""></o:p></p>
                                <p class="">I didn't always though. This
                                  was running fine before I tried adding
                                  the circuit for ethernet access.<o:p
                                    class=""></o:p></p>
                                <p class="">Thoughts?<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                                <p class="">-brian</p>
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