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/*]]>*/</style></div><div>W have stratum-1 server on our UTC timescale in Stockholm, it's <br></div><div>8 * 10GE and all the NTP processing is done in the FPGA that also is the<br></div><div>Ethernet MAC.<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>-P<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"tommytimesharing" <tommytimesharing@gmail.com><br><b>To: </b>"hecnet" <hecnet@Update.UU.SE><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, November 25, 2021 3:29:18 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [HECnet] A USNO GPS network time server is now in operation at Digital Equipment Corporation, Palo Alto, CA<br></blockquote></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">Oh... Well, what's a 'whoops' between hackers? (the good olde
fashioned kind)<br>
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I went to the web page and, of course, understood the working
solution to put the 'disappeared' host names into the <font size="4"><tt>/etc/hosts</tt></font>. That's a standard thing to
do on Windows and any Unix flavor I can think of. Personally, I
think it is a win. The one place where you <i>can't</i> do it as
easily is on a PANDA Tops-20 distribution, which will check the
domain <u>first</u> and wait for that resolve to time out before
checking the local hosts file (<font size="4"><tt>SYSTEM:HOSTS.TXT</tt></font>).<br>
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So that means you have to <i>wait</i> for the time out, which,
whatever duration that happens to be is far too long for me. It's
quite infuriating, actually. <tt>SYSTAT</tt> immediately knows,
yet <tt>finger</tt> appears to hang and mail delivery slows to a
crawl. You can't know how to remediate unless you happen to be
familiar with the source code. Humph...<br>
<br>
Avoiding the time out means you have to put whatever host you want
into the domain files, the format of which is both arcane and poorly
documented. And then whack the resolver. Now you have two files to
keep in sync. That was one argument that I never won with MRC as
having it the other way around seemed to me to be easiest for
everyone.<br>
<br>
I finally edited my local copy of <font size="4"><tt>HSTNAM</tt></font>
to not drive me crazy and also gave DECnet hosts priority, which
then turned up a gap in Tops-20. <font size="4"><tt>HSTNAM</tt></font>
<i>really</i> wants the node number, even though the average user
can't do a blessed thing with it. If it doesn't get a number, then
it...well, makes something up. Of course, fixing all this broke
something else in MMAILR, which is another rabbit hole I have yet to
get myself out of.<br>
<br>
This all being said, would the correct assumption be that HP is
looking to pull its Stratum-1 server or just cut down traffic? I
can't remember where I read this, but apparently Stratum-1 servers
get <b>a lot</b> of traffic, so maybe HP didn't want to burn that
bandwidth any more. Or...?<br>
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<p><font face="Calibri, sans-serif">On 11/25/21 7:39 AM, David
Moylan wrote:</font><br>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' , sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' , sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span>This
is my fault. I checked that NTP was running on 204.123.2.72
and then just googled it to find the name.</span></p>
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found a hit on a page on ntp.org with the name
usno.hpl.hp.com and just assumed it was valid.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' , sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Turns
out it has no name. This was a Stratum 1 server originally,
but the page found by google is not actively linked on the
official ntp.org.list</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' , sans-serif;color:#1f497d">This
appears to have happened in more recent times. I can find
references to it from 2019 where it appears it may have been
in the process of being phased out.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' , sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a href="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2019-July/028303.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2019-July/028303.html</a></span><br data-mce-bogus="1"></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' , sans-serif;color:#1f497d">cheers,
Wiz!!</span></p>
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