[Pollinator] [beemonitoring] Fwd: Example of what NOT to do [1 Attachment]

Thu Jul 21 08:19:44 PDT 2016

Dear Peter:

True, but what surprises me most is that people from 22-45 in these
countries appear far more likely to say no to bees than those who are
younger AND those who are older than they.  What increases bee-anxiety in
your early 20's in Asia and doesn't decline until well into middle age?  My
only thought is that people are raising their children in their homes from
22-45 and become a lot more protective.  Those under 22 (without property
or offspring) still find bees "groovy" (to be more modern).  After 45 the
empty nest syndrome begins and people begin to mellow.  The kids are gone.
Let the bees move in as they are better behaved than most borders.  I will
say more.  Dr Droege is concerned that comments I forwarded  previously
might upset some members.

Peter

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Peter Kevan <pkevan at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

> But it is so terribly modrern!
>
> Where are the vouchers?
>
> Peter
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> [Attachment(s) <#m_-3416322639110705331_TopText> from Peter Bernhardt
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> The following paper was sent to me an hour ago by a larding insect
> ecologist studying city and suburban bees.  It should be shared as well as
> his comments.
>
> Peter
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Gerardo Camilo <camilogr at slu.edu>
> Date: Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:17 AM
> Subject: Example of what NOT to do
> To: 任宗昕 <renzongxin at mail.kib.ac.cn>, Peter Bernhardt <bernhap2 at slu.edu>,
> Retha Meier <rmeier3 at gmail.com>, Ed Spevak <Spevak at stlzoo.org>, Paige
> Muniz <pmuniz at slu.edu>, Rachel Brant <rbrant at slu.edu>, Justin Zweck <
> jzweck at slu.edu>, urbanmapping at mindspring.com
>
>
> To one and all,
>
> here is a paper that John Ascher just forwarded on what not to do when
> working on urban bees.  His main gripe, which I wholeheartedly agree, is
> that they did not use proper taxonomy, even though the collections and
> identifications were available.  Instead, they use barcode of life indices.
>
>
> As I read the paper, I found that their sampling was rather limited and
> biased.  Each city was sampled for a total of 81 person-hour per city! We
> have sampled St. Louis for three times as much for each year of our
> project.  Furthermore, there is no estimate of rarefaction (ie,
> species-effort curve), thus making the results highly speculative.
>
> Saludos!
>
>
> --
> Gerardo R Camilo, Ph.D.
> Assoc. Professor of Biology
> Bioinformatics and Computational Biology
>    & International Studies
> Conservation Fellow, St. Louis Zoo
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