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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: Daniel Weaver <<a href="mailto:dbeeweaver@gmail.com">dbeeweaver@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:Pollinator@lists.sonic.net">Pollinator@lists.sonic.net</a><br>
Cc: Zac Browning <<a href="mailto:z_browning@msn.com">z_browning@msn.com</a>><br>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 20:45:39 -0500<br>
Subject: access to the listserve; honey bees on conservation land<br>
Hello All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Though I'm not sure this reply will post to the list, if
it reaches someone of authority with the means to allow me privileges to post I
would appreciate the favor of doing so - just provide appropriate instructions.
If this does post automatically, then I apologize for the diversion.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> I'll assume as a given that honey bees (Apis
mellifera) are avid, super-generalist pollinators of an amazing variety of
plants, whether native, merely introduced or invasive. Thus they may promote
propagation of a huge number of species, and will undoubtedly compete for
nectar and pollen resources. Less certain is whether this competition
will negatively impact native pollinators in any particular time, place or
environmental condition, much less native pollinators generally.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> I will concede that ecosystems most likely to be
affected by honey bee populations will be those where honey bee populations are
at the most extreme in terms of density. By the same token, the seasonal
occurrence of large concentrations of honey bees - in the central valley of
California for Almond pollination being one example - happen much earlier than
most native pollinators emerge or certainly before their populations reach peak
levels.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> First, I think it important to discriminate among
land tracts and the purposes for which they are administered. True
"Wilderness areas" don't merit managed honey bee populations and
beekeeper traffice (though how are you going to exclude feral colonies?) any
more than they should be used for any other intrusive activity. But I do
think that honey bees have a much less negative impact on native habitat than
grazing mammals, so if you can graze or hay the land, then honey bees should be
a no-brainer. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Second, many large tracts that are managed to
promote conservation of various biological features have long been occupied and
used by beekeepers and in some cases have been natural habitat for introduced
honey bees even longer. The later category of land includes conservation
reserve program land, blm land, forested land and incidental tracts managed for
reasons other than merely preservation and conservation of endangered species
or native habitat alone. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> In other words, if you want to keep honey bees off
of wilderness areas I'm sympathetic (but what about those pesky feral colonies
that have been part of the ecosystem for 300?? years). On the other hand
if you want to propose excluding honey bees from any land tract that has any
conservation goal as an administrative or management aim, then I think you're
ignoring reality, and attempting to demonize the <i><span style='font-style:
italic'>only </span></i>agricultural industry that is truly invested in (and
will survive if and only if) we as a nation do more to protect and
preserve natural environments. If you want political allies to help
preserve more land, and develop, ruin and plunder the environment less, then
we're the best you're likely to find.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> It we can't preserve the natural and mutually
dependent alliance between beekeepers and native pollinator enthusiasts, find
some common ground, and work on preserving more natural habitat for both honey
bees and native pollinators then were all well and truly ....... add your
favorite apocalyptic phrase here.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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