[HECnet] Who's emulating?

Brett Bump bbump at rsts.org
Mon Sep 21 17:15:59 PDT 2009


The revisions after V8, can be turned back into something usable if you
are willing to put in a few patches and custom run-time-systems.   It has
been many years since I did anything useful with RSTS, but the big push
by DEC to make everyone DCL compliant was where RSTS got messed up and
slow.   Like Paul, "if" I get some time I'd like to put up a few RSTS
systems on rsts.org and tie them to hecnet, but real work always gets in
the way.

Brett

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Mark Abene wrote:

Yeah, if I didn't think that every version of RSTS after v8 is a total
abomination.   :)   I run v8 on purpose, because I actually used to use it
back in the 80's.   It's the last "pure" version, before DEC turned it
into crap to make VMS people happy.

-M

Paul Koning wrote:
Excerpt of message (sent 20 August 2009) by Mark Abene:
While I have been running three public access emulated systems for a few
years now (TOPS-20 on KLH10, RSTS/E v8 and 2.11BSD on SIMH), there are
several problems with me getting on HECnet.   First, my host server is
FreeBSD, and FreeBSD doesn't support multicast on tap network
interfaces, nor have I heard about any plans to.   Which means no DECnet.
At some point I plan to migrate my emulators over to a beefy linux
server, and linux does have the necessary support.   Second problem, is
that SIMH doesn't support any DDCMP-aware network devices, which means
that even if I solve the first problem (it'll allow me to get TOPS-20 on
DECnet), I don't have any way via SIMH to get DECnet/E working on my
RSTS system.   Call me crazy, but I just don't think I'll be paying 4,000
dollars for E11/linux.   So that's out.

Could you get RSTS/E V10?   If so, you could run DDCMP over an async
terminal line.

	paul



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