[HECnet] Circuit costs - Area 19 revised

[hvlems at zonnet.nl]

An 8650 sure makes a fine central heating unit ! 
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On 2011-12-30 02.44, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Agh, magica. Those were the good old days. :)

Magica is still around. I only wish I could turn her on more often. 
Cooling is the problem.

What was that monster MIPS box you had that you terminated the serial tunnel on? Wasn't it the one that came in the same style as the VAX 6000?

Hum...? I think that it terminated on our VAX 8650.
That is the only thing I can remember on which I had serial ports to 
spare. Running Ultrix on the machine at the time.

That machine is also still around, but also powered off because of 
cooling. Big ECL machine. Lots of heat... But it's KRILLE (1.8).
It can boot VMS, Ultrix and NetBSD. Only got DECnet for VMS though.

	Johnny


-brian

On Dec 29, 2011, at 18:38, Johnny Billquist<bqt at softjar.se>   wrote:

Fun story:

A number of years ago I had a russian guy who asked for a guest account on Magica (MIMs predecessor, a real PDP-11/70, which is still around).

A day or so later, the system had crashed, and I had received an email with an apology from the russian guy for crashing the system.

It turned out that he and some friends had a russian cloned RSX system from some old age, which they had done plenty of hacking and working on, and in the process had found some potential exploits. Curious as they were, they decided to check if those exploits were still around in the latest version of RSX, which they had not touched before. Since I had protected all the directories and source files from random access, they couldn't check the source code, but they could write programs, so they did.

And yes, the possible exploits and holes were still around, and thus Magica crashed. This was in V4.5, if I remember right. I thanked them for the information, rebooted the system and sent what they told be on towards Mentec. The russian promised to not do that again, and I just thought it was fun.

V4.6 fixed one or two of the problems, but a couple of them are still around.

So, once it a while, you actually do find someone who knows what they are doing, but such people are normally not evil.

I'm still looking for script kiddies trying to hack MIM. Once in a while I do get people who try to login repeatedly as root, falken, and other known Unix accounts. Poor kids... ;-)

      Johnny

On 2011-12-29 14.17, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Or Solaris, or *BSD, or.....

If they can't run a script on linux or windows they can't hack in.

Yes, I have a very poor view of crackers these days. :-D

-brian

On 12/29/2011 4:24 AM, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
MIM uses guest/guest and a script that asks for your name. Not secure
but then again what's there to steal? And I doubt whether hackers know
their way in any DEC OS ...
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Area 19 revised

I do not create any accounts unless asked by the node owner...

Only some machines have guest accounts and as far as I know we have no
standard. This site does not have guest accounts. I do create accounts
on request for some of the machines. Mostly PLUTO::, because it is the
only RSTS/E system on HECnet, but it is not up all of the time. With
the exception of PLUTO:: none of my machines offer anything that HECnet
users don't already have.

-Steve

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Ah, no guest accounts have been setup unless Steve did it so I'm
assuming he hasn't. I'll create some guest accounts tomorrow.

What's the standard HECnet guest?

-brian

On Dec 28, 2011, at 19:43, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:

Hi Brian, It may have been an example of the NML issue discussed here
a couple of days ago. Anyway set host rifter worked fine. I tried
guest/guest and hecnet/guiest but that didn't work. Well, I quit for the
day, it's late out here.
Hans
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On 12/28/2011 6:44 PM, H Vlems wrote:
Brian, is RIFTER a phase V node? NCP set exec node RIFTER doesn't
work, even
when I jump to SG1 first.
No, it's a Phase IV node.

-brian