Yeah but I don't use GNV on my VMSes.. Sampsa On 14 Aug 2012, at 04:58, Phil Mendelsohn wrote: Ctl-Alt-F1 has always worked for me. ;) -- That's all he wrote. On 2012-08-12, at 9:30 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: CDE has been open-sourced: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/09/cde_goes_opensource/