On 08/04/2012 05:19 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: I just checked Amazon and they didn't have any z-series boxes for reasonable prices. Also the power and cooling would kinda suck, methinks. A z890, for example, only pulls about 1.5kW. Not bad for a 64-bit mainframe with big hairy balls. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA