[HECnet] HECnet mapping project

Rob Jarratt robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com
Wed Dec 26 13:26:51 PST 2012


Just looking at the NSP protocol and doing some packet capture I am
wondering if I can get away with a really basic subset of NSP, just enough
to implement just enough of NICE. It may not work in all circumstances
though. I will have a think, it might be my next project in this area.

Regards

Rob

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Rob Jarratt
Sent: 26 December 2012 09:31
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Cc: sampsa at mac.com
Subject: RE: [HECnet] HECnet mapping project

Actually it looks like I would need to implement various other layers
before I
could even start on NICE, that might be a bit too much. SNMP might be an
option in that case. I don't know much about the details of SNMP, I can
look
it up of course but I guess there would need to be a format for the
routing
and end node data, if I can match what CISCO produces then that would
make it easier, anyone have any info on this?

Regards

Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Jarratt [mailto:robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com]
Sent: 26 December 2012 09:10
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Subject: RE: [HECnet] HECnet mapping project



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: 26 December 2012 01:24
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Cc: sampsa at mac.com
Subject: Re: [HECnet] HECnet mapping project

On 2012-12-26 02:13, sampsa at mac.com wrote:

On 26 Dec 2012, at 03:00, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:


Yuck. Seriously, if you depend on manual information, it's going
to be
broken sooner or later.

I'm not at all clear what the problem is, though. I can, from
MIM, tell
which areas are online. And for each area, you can check which nodes
are online in that area. After that, it just becomes a question of
figuring out how the bits are connected.


The problem is the CISCO gear doesnt talk NCP, so we can't do
stuff like
SHOW KNOW CIRC (to get routers to walk) or SHOW ADJ NODES (to get
end
nodes).

If the CISCO guys want on the map, it'll have to be manual for
now....

You'll have the same problem with Rob's DECnet router... And
possibly other equipment, or nodes that don't want to talk NICE.



I have just downloaded the spec and will think about how easy it would
be
to
add this to the router, not that anyone other than me uses it :-(




	Johnny



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