[HECnet] NOTES system?

Clem Cole clemc at ccc.com
Mon Feb 25 11:46:59 PST 2013


While I understand the emotion on this, one of the main SW guy the vt-100 is an old friend (and screwed up the layout of two keyboards at Masscomp after to he screwed up the vt-1xx series too IMH).   Tom used to say, the only real issue is keyboard layout  because  the rest is "just SW"

The other issue is that while the original VT-100 used ANSI sequences, it was actually not ANSI.   DEC released the terminal before the ANSI was complete and there are a number of places where VT-100s differ from sequences.   So this also becomes an issue (and part of what Cory is pointing out).

But the truth is a number of firms did parrot the VT-100 family sequences bug-for-bug.

The problem is as Tom, says the unless you have a DEC keyboard layout, you are mapping something and that tends the be source of much discomfort.

Clem

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:


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Cory Smelosky
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On 25 Feb 2013, at 13:58, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:

> On 2013-02-25 18:06, Clem Cole wrote:
>> check out http://www.iterm2.com
>
> Would not recommend. It's perhaps a good terminal application, but not if you want something that is even a fair VT100 emulation.

The only good VT100 emulation is a real VT100. ;)

>
>      Johnny
>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com
>> <mailto:sampsa at mac.com>> wrote:
>>
>>      If someone has a config file for OS X Terminal.app I'd cry with
>>      happiness.
>>
>>      sampsa
>>
>>      On 25 Feb 2013, at 11:58, Erik Olofsen <e.olofsen at xs4all.nl
>>      <mailto:e.olofsen at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>
>>       > Just in case it may be helpful for someone using xterm, I put
>>      together
>>       > some well known keyboard translations below. The keypad is such
>>       > that it will work with EDT; the PLUS key will then be DEL C.
>>       > F9-12 may be used on a laptop and NOTES, and they as below they
>>       > correspond to SELECT, NEXT UNSEEN, BACK TOPIC, and NEXT TOPIC:
>>       >
>>       > xterm    -sl 1000 -fn 7x14 -g 132x48 -xrm \
>>       >            'XTerm*vt100.translations: #override \n\
>>       >               <Key>F9: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
>>       >               <Key>F10: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
>>       >               <Key>F11: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
>>       >               <Key>F12: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
>>       >               <Key>BackSpace: string(0x7f) \n\
>>       >               <Key>Num_Lock: string(0x1b) string("OP") \n\
>>       >               <Key>KP_Divide: string(0x1b) string("OQ") \n\
>>       >               <Key>KP_Multiply: string(0x1b) string("OR") \n\
>>       >               <Key>KP_Subtract: string(0x1b) string("OS") \n\
>>       >               <Key>KP_Add: string(0x1b) string("Ol") \n\
>>       >               <Key>KP_Enter: string(0x1b) string("OM") \n\
>>       >               <Key>KP_Decimal: string(0x1b) string("On") \n\
>>       >               <Key>KP_0: string(0x1b) string("Op") \n\
>>       >               <Key>KP_1: string(0x1b) string("Oq") \n\
>>       >               <Key>KP_2: string(0x1b) string("Or") \n\
>>       >               <Key>KP_3: string(0x1b) string("Os") \n\
>>       >               <Key>KP_4: string(0x1b) string("Ot") \n\
>>       >               <Key>KP_5: string(0x1b) string("Ou") \n\
>>       >               <Key>KP_6: string(0x1b) string("Ov") \n\
>>       >               <Key>KP_7: string(0x1b) string("Ow") \n\
>>       >               <Key>KP_8: string(0x1b) string("Ox") \n\
>>       >               <Key>KP_9: string(0x1b) string("Oy")' \
>>       >               -e telnet <host>
>>       >
>>       >
>>       > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 02:12:05PM -0500, Steve Davidson wrote:
>>       >> Good question!   I just tried my PC keyboard from a PuTTY
>>      terminal.   Some
>>       >> of the functions map, others do not.   It looks like it will
>>      depend on
>>       >> what you are working with.
>>       >>
>>       >> -Steve
>>       >>
>>       >>> -----Original Message-----
>>       >>> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
>>       >>> [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
>>      <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>] On Behalf Of Erik Olofsen
>>       >>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 13:49
>>       >>> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
>>       >>> Subject: Re: [HECnet] NOTES system?
>>       >>>
>>       >>> Related to using NOTES, before doing the discussion on NOTES,
>>       >>> for using the keypad, how do the present HECnet users use the
>>       >>> DEC keypad on non-DEC equipment?
>>       >>>
>>       >>> Erik
>>       >>>
>>       >>
>



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