[HECnet] NT 4 on AlphaServer es40

Cory Smelosky b4 at gewt.net
Mon Feb 11 12:52:29 PST 2013


On 11 Feb 2013, at 15:49, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:

On 02/11/2013 03:44 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I'm attempting to get NT 4 installed on my alpha server
es40   is there an NT 4 TSE hardware support disk for this?

I got it to boot using the DS20 disk   but despite having 2
keyboards plugged in   neither work in NT setup (this is early
setup, too!)

Any ideas?   The ES40 hates this damn keyboard...

The stuff you're trying to mate is like 15-20 years apart...I
really don't think you're going to have much luck there.

15 years?   TSE was released in 1998, the ES40 in 2000/2001, and
the current firmware build was released in 2007!

I don't know what "TSE" is, but I could've sworn the ES40 was more 
like 2005, and NT for Alpha died (thank heaven) YEARS before 1998.

Terminal Services Edition.   You might be thinking of the
discontinuation date for the ES40.

I don't think so, but either way..

Perhaps they (stupidly) kept supporting it   ?

It seems they half-stopped supporting it.   There are DS20 drivers
(2001 again) yet support WAS dropped in 1998.

That's frightening.   They stopped pushing it as a viable platform in
like 1994.   The last place I saw it deployed (not that there were many)
was gone by 1995.

I've heard NT performance wasn't that good on early alphas, so I see why. ;)


Either way, though, NT on Alpha was very much a "first generation
Alphas" thing, and the ES family is a "last generation Alphas" thing.
I'd be shocked if it even came close to booting on a 21264-class
processor.   ...which means I'm utterly shocked to hear of any DS20
support at all.

It boots the kernel and loads the installer with all 4 processors and all 4G RAM, even!


Well I learned something today. ;)

NT on Alpha had even less reason to exist than NT on DECstations.

That I would agree with. ;)


                                -Dave

-- 
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA



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