[HECnet] DMC11 in next simh version... looks nice, and question about TOPS-10

Paul_Koning at Dell.com Paul_Koning at Dell.com
Sat Jan 5 12:12:14 PST 2013


On Jan 5, 2013, at 4:32 AM, Rob Jarratt wrote:



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3. The first thing RSTS does to the DMC after resetting it is to set RUN
and
ROMI in SEL0, with a magic value in SEL6.   What that does (according to
the
driver comments) is to put the DMC microcontroller in a state where it
executes the opcode in SEL6 every clock tick.   That instruction is a "move
line
status register to BSEL3".   The RSTS/E driver uses this to test for DSR;
it
takes no further startup action until DSR has been set for 2 seconds.   So
I
added code to pdp11_dmc.c to handle this magic (it simply sets the DSR bit
unconditionally if it sees ROMI and the magic opcode value).   With that,
RSTS/E will complete the device startup.


As I have only tested this with VMS I have not seen the VMS driver do this
so the emulation doesn't do it. It sounds like this could be a good way for
the OS to know that the other end is up and so it can start doing a Master
Clear and sending messages. This might help with the other problem you
mention below. It might be good to change the code to set the status of DSR
according to whether the TCP connection is open. What does the RSTS driver
do once it has seen the DSR set for 2 seconds, does it just clear the ROM
INPUT bit? Can you send me your code?

Here's the first step:

	MOV	R0,R3		;RESTORE DEVICE CSR POINTER
	BIS	#MCLR,(R3)	;MASTER CLEAR THE DMC11 AND TURN DTR ON.
	MOV	#DSPDSR,SEL6(R3)	;SET INSTRUCTION TO MOVE DSR TO BSEL3
	MOVB	#DMCRUN,BSEL1(R3)	;HAVE DMC EXECUTE SEL6 EVERY 300 NSEC

definitions:

DMCRUN	=	202		;WHEN MOVED TO BSEL1 THE DMC EXECUTES THE 
				;INSTRUCTION IN SEL6 EVERY 300 NSEC.
DSPDSR	=	021263		;MOVE LINE UNIT STATUS TO BSEL3
				;   OUT   IBUS, MODEM CSR, BSEL3


By the way, the background for this can be found in the KMC-11 manual. 
Next, once DSR has been seen on for 2 seconds, it does another master clear, then the Base In operation.

Since Master Clear needs to drop the connection, I don't think that tying DSR to the connection being alive will work.   It does seem like an obvious thing to do, but that second master clear suggests it isn't the way to go.





4. Now I see a "circuit up" message from DECnet, but that is followed by
some combination of "circuit down, listener timeout" and "circuit down,
unexpected packet type".   After staring at packet traces ("set dmc0
debug=data") for a while, the reason is obvious: when one side of the
connection is started and the other is not yet started, one side sends a
packet and the other side discards that.   You can't do that.   DDCMP is a
connection oriented protocol: if you discard a packet that's a protocol
violation, and DECnet will absolutely positively get bent out of shape
because it assumes the DDCMP implementation will not do such a thing.

What has to be done is that a transmit remains pending if the other end is
not able to receive it.   That can happen because there is no connection,
or
because the other end hasn't turned its DMC on yet, or it's on but it
currently
doesn't have receive buffers. 


The code should already do this. It will not try to send a buffer if there
isn't an open socket to the other side. See the dmc_get_transmit_socket()
routine. It may not be perfect but that is the best I can think of when
there isn't a single permanent cable between the two sides. On VMS this
seems to work without any circuit down messages.

Ok, but then why did I see a "Discarding received data while controller is not running" message?   That's the problem, I believe.

	paul



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