[HECnet] Ersatz-11 PDP-11 emulator V7.0

[Jerome Ibanes]

John,

When would the demo (available via telnet) be accessible again?
What are, besides the duration limit, the differences between the demo
and the full version?

Thank you,
Jerome

On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:

On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:

As for Jobs, uhh, OS X is an extension of OpenStep which Apple they got
the rights to when they acquired Next and they brought Jobs in. What are you
talking about?


The replacement for   Mac OS work started long before Jobs returned.     You
are right, what they ended up with NextStep/OpenStep etc.     But learning to
join what we now call the FOSS community began before he returned.   Talking
to my friends that were there at the time, the tell me that culturally
breaking out of the "closed" nature was not something Jobs liked.     The
engineers inside Apple at the time were what started it.     Remember then
they were still in the Avis "we try harder" mode to Microsoft and the PC and
many of them felt the way to fight redmond was to be part of the unix
community etc..   When Jobs returned, they were already participating in the
FOSS community.     There was a system called MachTen the pre-dated the Next
machine ( IIRC that was being used inside of Apple before NextStep also).   I
ran it on a 68030 based color Mac-II (which I only go rid of about 2 years
ago).     It was CMU Mach/BSD under the covers and allowed traditional MacOS
programs to run.

A lot of folks thought it was cool - best of both worlds.

Also your comment about App store -- I ask you to please differentiate
between the iOS App store and Mac App store,     Many Mac developers that I
work with do not use the later and I know some are proud of it and display
thing on their web sites saying so.   If I look at the system in which I am
typing this message, very few of the applications   come from the Apple
store.     That said -- I agree with your comment for iOS however and nearly
100% of my iPhone apps come from the store.   All do indirectly[the IT shop
of my employer loads a program from the store called "apps at work" - and that
program some how loads other applications from an Intel specific library].

IMO, with the success of iOS, Apple seems to have gone back to its closed
ways and I do find that worrisome.

Clem