[HECnet] Re: TOPS-20 on HECnet?

[Jarratt RMA]

I have not written anything specifically to make it a GRE endpoint (if that is the right term). It can work as a direct replacement for the bridge in that it can talk the same protocols. In other words on a LAN it implements the DECnet Ethernet interface, and it also accepts the UDP packet format processed by the bridge. The difference  being of course that it does not bridge the networks, instead it routes between your local Ethernet(s) and the "Ethernet" that comes in over the UDP interface.

I hope that explains it.

Regards

Rob


On 16 January 2014 21:16, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
Does that work with GRE on Linux? I never got GRE with not IP to work on FreeBSD due to strangeness with bpf.

Paul's python router talks GRE natively. Not sure how well tested that is though as I never got it setup before the colo box getting shut off.

-brian

On Jan 16, 2014, at 15:35, Jarratt RMA <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote:

I wrote a user mode one that runs on Linux, although my primary development platform is Windows and I have not checked Linux compatibility lately. You can find it on http://route20.codeplex.com/

Regards

Rob


On 16 January 2014 18:53, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
A GRE tunnel won't do much good if he can't route DECnet packets over it.

Is there a reasonable Linux DECnet router? If not, you may want to try out Paul's python one.

-brian

> On Jan 16, 2014, at 13:40, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
>
>
>   Oh ok.   I'm sorry, I misunderstood.
>
>   I can set up a temporary GRE tunnel with you this afternoon if you
> like, until we can get you folded into Brian's tunnel configuration
> management system.   Let me know.
>
>                      -Dave
>
>> On 01/16/2014 11:51 AM, Mark Abene wrote:
>> Sorry if it wasn't clear... Two different threads had a little
>> cross-posting I think.   Here I'm just trying to establish a solid
>> HECnet peer.   Johnny-bridge would have been preferable since I'm
>> running this on my NAS (and I know 'bridge' works), but if a GRE peer
>> is easier to find, by all means.   While my QNAP NAS does have several
>> tunneling options in its stock config (it's linux arm), it appears
>> they did not include the ip_gre module, so I'll have to see about
>> hacking that in.   Assuming that goes well, who's solidly offering the
>> GRE tunnel?   We can exchange IP's and configs off-list.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   I thought you and I were only discussing some X.25 experimentation.
>>> If you want a full-on HECnet connection via GRE, Brian Hechinger can
>>> stick your info in his database, and tunnel configurations will be
>>> automatically generated for all of us on his next run.
>>>
>>>                   -Dave
>>>
>>>> On 01/16/2014 02:12 AM, Mark Abene wrote:
>>>> Seems rather counter to the idea of HECnet if it's this difficult to
>>>> join it.
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 14, 2014 10:13 PM, "Johnny Billquist" <bqt at softjar.se
>>>> <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      There are definitely people running the bridge in the US, but if
>>>>      they want to peer is another story.
>>>>
>>>>                  Johnny
>>>>
>>>>      On 2014-01-14 21:31, Mark Abene wrote:
>>>>
>>>>            I'm going to try getting a GRE tunnel going with Dave McGuire
>>>>            soonish...   In the meantime, if someone has a speedy connection
>>>>            and is
>>>>            already running 'bridge' (which would be simplest) let me know.
>>>>
>>>>            Thanks,
>>>>            Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>            On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 5:25 PM,   <Paul_Koning at dell.com
>>>>            <mailto:Paul_Koning at dell.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                  On Jan 14, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com
>>>>                  <mailto:phiber at phiber.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                        I'm not using the virtual cisco for HECnet at all,
>>>>                        that's only for the
>>>>                        X.25 project (currently at sampsa.com
>>>>                        <http://sampsa.com>, though I may run a local node
>>>>                        additionally).
>>>>                        For HECnet I'm just running a plain old fashioned
>>>>                        Johnny-bridge.   :)
>>>>                        I take it HECnet peers are lacking in the U.S.?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                  I guess I should put my Python router up permanently...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                               paul
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>>> New Kensington, PA
>
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA