[HECnet] "illegal record size" in RSX?

Johnny Billquist bqt at softjar.se
Tue Apr 14 10:01:39 PDT 2015


On 2015-04-14 18:14, lee.gleason at comcast.net wrote:
>
>    Don;t you figure,  they were stream files on the source, and got laid
> byte for byte into files with  variable length record type set on the
> RSX end, which would cause random pairs of bytes to be interpreted as
> record lengths? A look with dmp ti:=filename.ext /bl /as  would let you
> see if they have record sizes that make sense.

Stream files, as such, are taken into consideration by the DAP protocol. 
So they should never end up the way you describe it.
However, if they are stream files, RSX will actually end up creating 
stream files, which basically no other tool in RSX then knows how to 
deal with. RMS under RSX can deal with stream files, but FCS cannot, and 
most every tool uses FCS.

But if you are in that situation, you can convert the file, using RMS tools.

However, if they are stream text files under RSX, I would expect you to 
get a bad record type error from FCS based tools.

So, it would be very interesting if the OP could post the result of DSP 
<file>, as well as a dump of the first block of the file.

	Johnny

>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Dave McGuire" <mcguire at neurotica.com>
> *To: *"hecnet" <hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 14, 2015 10:25:36 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [HECnet] "illegal record size" in RSX?
>
> On 04/14/2015 11:00 AM, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote:
>  >> Hey folks.  I'm moving some text files to an RSX system via DECnet
>  >> under Linux.  The files on the RSX system are not readable; I get
>  >> "illegal record size" when trying to type them.
>  >>
>  >> Has anyone hit this?  I assume there's a simple solution..
>  >
>  > What are the RMS attributes?  (I don’t know how to ask RSX to show
>  > those, unfortunately.)  A possible way to get this would be a file
>  > with “no-span” records and recordsize > 512.
>
>    I don't know how to ask RSX for that...I used to be a heavy user of
> RSX, but that was in the 80s; I seem to have forgotten nearly
> everything. :-(
>
>    I have no problem with hitting the books; I'm generally pretty
> self-sufficient in that regard, but I'm about to load these machines
> onto a truck and take them to VCF, so I'm just short of time.  Things
> have gotten a bit less stressful about that since some hardware (not the
> 11/34) has started to behave, and now it looks like some of the machines
> will be on HECnet during the show, so I'll be able to get some software
> on them then.
>
>               -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ/3
> New Kensington, PA
>



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