[HECnet] installing LPs on RSX

[Johnny Billquist]

On 2015-04-28 02:15, Mark Matlock wrote:
> Johnny,
>     I don't recall if the layered product patches were there or not. I am on the road and I was able to verify the F77 compiler version:
>> F77 /ID                                                                       F77 -- PDP-11 FORTRAN-77 V5.4-26
>
> Does the -26 indicate a patch level?

Think so, and that matches what I have, so I think that is good.

>    Thanks for the info on non-routed DECnet and HECnet. I may have had some other issue going on and need to work on getting connected again.

You should... ;-)

>     BP2 with I/D space would be worth some effort to bring back from extinction. With the high speed of Simh and E11 with modern CPUs, if one could figure out a way to reassemble the tape blocks in the various combinations the see if BRU could read it successfully or not in some automated way, then just let the CPU have at it. It can't be worse than breaking the Enigma code in World War II.

A few thousand blocks. The number of permutations can be interesting... 
Also, it is not totally trivial to see if you got it all right...

>      Also, I meant to say that the PDP-11 C V1.2 is corrupt but the V1.1 is okay as I recall. Also, DECUS C works quite well, but I don't recall which DECUS tape it is on.

I did some changes/improvements to DECUS C many years ago. I believe my 
changed version should be available with ftp from Update.

I should probably make a kit disk or something available from MIM/Madame 
as well. If I only had time...

Too bad noone is willing to pay for me doing this kind of work. I could 
spend full time just fixing things for years... :-)

	Johnny

>
> Mark
>
>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-04-28 00:48, Mark Matlock wrote:
>>> Dave,
>>>     If you are using the RSX11M+ V4.6 distribution tape, there is a copy of F77 (V5.4 I think) on it already. Look in [246,246]. Also, that tape has DECnet on it as well that works fine with Johnny's TCP/IP software.
>>
>> Cool. Did the person setting that up also include the layered product patches that are included with RSX?
>>
>>>     Unfortunately, the DECnet on that tape is for non routing nodes, so that complicates direct connection to HECnet. I have not found a RSX11M+ V4.6 routing DECNet distribution.
>>
>> It don't really complicate any connection to HECnet. You do not need a routing node for that, and unless you have some very specific needs, routing nodes just means it requires way more CPU and memory usage.
>>
>>>     You are right on BP2 V2.7 being corrupted. The V2.5 is good though. On the PDP-11 the latest one is corrupt but the earliest one is ok.
>>
>> V2.7 have some improvements that would be really nice to have, such as split I/D space capability...
>>
>> I have been trying to repair the tape on trailing edge, but there is a big library file in there which is just way complicated to figure out...
>>
>>     Johnny
>>
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 04/27/2015 06:04 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>>>>>    Uh-oh...That "HDR1" business looks like part of an ANSI tape label,
>>>>>> not a filename.  What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Definitely a corrupted tape.
>>>>
>>>>   Yup...After testing several other images from the trailing-edge
>>>> archive, I'm finding the same sort of mess.  I knew the BP2 v2.7 image
>>>> was trashed, but it looks like quite a few others are as well.  The
>>>> f77_v5_4.tpc one is corrupt too.
>>>>
>>>>   What a mess.
>>>>
>>>>   Thanks for your help in diagnosing this.
>>>>
>>>>   At least some earlier releases are intact, but do you know if any of
>>>> those newer ones have been archived intact anywhere?  Do you have them?
>>>>
>>>>                -Dave
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>>>> New Kensington, PA
>>
>>
>> --
>> Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
>>                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
>> email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
>> pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol


-- 
Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol