Circuit TCP-0-51, Unexpected packet type, Adjacent node = 51.10 Packet beginning = 010A1405400202000058020008080908 day. It's not always an "unexpected packet type" error; sometimes it'll just be a "listener receive timeout" instead. Not to sound like an AOL'er, but "Me too!" I occasionally see these in the logs, regardless of who the link is to. FRUGAL is running Multinet 5.3. Fred