[HECnet] HECnet .HLP library for OpenVMS

Sampsa Laine sampsa at mac.com
Fri Sep 11 06:21:41 PDT 2015


So here's the thing:

I've suggested a format, I'm not declaring it should be the one.

I think the best alternative is YAML, does someone want to come up with a sample markup for this?

sampsa


On 11 Sep 2015, at 11:40, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:

> Well, I'm open to other format suggestions, this isn't that hard to write by hand, took me like 10 mins max to convert the file I had.
> 
> Now that I look at it, it does look a bit like XML - but with like 3 or 4 tags :)
> 
> 
> 
> Sampsa
> 
> On 11 Sep 2015, at 03:37, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Uh...wow...That's supposed to be better than XML? ;)
>> 
>>               -Dave
>> 
>> On 09/10/2015 02:32 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
>>> 
>>> !!! Example HECnet info markup document
>>> !!! Lines beginning with three bangs are comments
>>> !!! Any whitspace outside SECTSTART...SECTEND is ignored
>>> !!! All text should be in a SECT
>>> !!! Text inside SECTs is considered preformatted
>>> 
>>> |||TITLE|HILANT:: VAXcluster
>>> |||DATE|1-JAN-2015
>>> |||VERSION|0.01
>>> |||AUTHOR|Sampsa Laine
>>> |||AUTHOR_MAIL11|HILANT::SAMPSA
>>> |||AUTHER_SMTP|sampsa at mac.com
>>> 
>>> !!! Where this documnet is stored on HECnet
>>> |||DOC_LOC|HILANT::[INFO]HILAINFO.MRK
>>> 
>>> 
>>> |||H|1|HILANT
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>>         #    # # #        ##   #    #  #####
>>>         #    # # #       #  #  ##   #    #
>>>         ###### # #      #    # # #  #    #
>>>         #    # # #      ###### #  # #    #
>>>         #    # # #      #    # #   ##    #
>>>         #    # # ###### #    # #    #    #
>>> 
>>> Welcome to the HILANT VAX Cluster, part of the SAMPSACOM, .FI section.
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||H|2|Accounts
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> No guest accounts at the moment, but if you log in as ACCTREQ
>>> you can apply for a full one.
>>> 
>>> For the more active accounts you can interact with, look in
>>> Active Accounts here or KAHUNA$:[INFO]ACCOUNTS.TXT
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||H|3|Active Accounts
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> List of quite active accounts on HILANT::
>>> -----------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> SAMPSA      Sampsa Laine, owner, admin
>>> DAVIDSON    Steve Davidson, co-conspirator, admin
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> 
>>> |||H|2|Mail
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> Mail can be sent to HECnet users directly using the <NODE>::<USER>
>>> syntax I'm sure you are all familiar with.
>>> 
>>> To send mail to the internet, route it via the CHIMPYMAIL gateway,
>>> using this syntax:
>>> 
>>> 	LEGATO::smtp%"joe.user at example.com"
>>> 
>>> Please note that some providers (notably Apple and Hotmail/Windows Live)
>>> do not accept this as a valid address. Gmail does however.
>>> 
>>> Your inbound address is:
>>> 
>>> 	<username>@hilant.decnet.org
>>> 
>>> For information on how to forward your mail, see the Forwarding
>>> subsection.
>>> 
>>> See KAHUNA$:[INFO]ACCOUNTS.TXT for the most active accounts, usually
>>> admins who can help you.
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||H|3|Forwarding
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> You can forward your mail by using MAIL's SET FORWARD command.
>>> 
>>> To stop forwarding mail, issue the SET NOFORWARD command in MAIL.
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> Forwarding to HECnet
>>> --------------------
>>> 
>>> Simply use the <NODE>::<USER> scheme, e.g.
>>> 
>>> 	MAIL> SET FORWARD CHIMPY::FOOBAR
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> Forwarding to the Internet
>>> --------------------------
>>> 
>>> To forward you mail to the Internet, use the CHIMPYMAIL gateway.
>>> 
>>> For example, to forward your mail to joe at example.com do:
>>> 
>>> 	MAIL> SET FORWARD LEGATO::smtp%"joe.user at example.com"
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> 
>>> |||H|2|Hardware
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> - KUHAVX (boot node, SIMH, ~12 VUPS, 128 MB)
>>> - LABVAX (app node, SIMH, ~15 VUPS, 512 MB RAM)
>>> - SIIKAX (app node, SIMH, ~20 VUPS, 512 MB RAM)
>>> - HPIVAX (Raspbery PI SIMH, ~1.6 VUPS, 128 MB RAM)
>>> - GIFTVX, SIIRI - real MicroVAX 3400s, ~2 VUPS, 20 MBs of RAM
>>> - K4VX1 real VAXstation 4000/90, ~22 VUPS, 32 MBs of RAM
>>> - K4VX2 real VAXstation 4000/60, ~12 VUPS, 24 MBs of RAM
>>> 
>>> See Performance here or KAHUNA$:[INFO]PERFORMANCE.TXT for details.
>>> 
>>> Real hardware courtesy of Saku Setala
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||H|3|Performance
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> Introduction
>>> ============
>>> 
>>> I _KNOW_ that VUPS is useless to measure any platform other than VAXes,
>>> but thought it might give some relative guidance to how slow emulated
>>> Alphas are compared to real ones.
>>> 
>>> The main point here is that if you need some heavy VAX work done,
>>> use LABVAX (or if you just need CPU and very little RAM, K4VX1/2).
>>> 
>>> If you need some Alpha work done, use CHIMPY - it has far more stuff
>>> on it than QAMAR anyway.
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> Results
>>> =======
>>> 
>>> VAXes
>>> =====
>>> 
>>> GIFTVX, SIIRI 			~2 VUPS
>>> HPIVAX				~1.6 VUPS
>>> KUHAVX,LABVAX			~27 VUPS
>>> SIIKAX				~20 VUPS
>>> K4VX1		        	~23 VUPS
>>> K4VX2				~12 VUPS (note the low RAM however)
>>> 
>>> Alphas
>>> ======
>>> QAMAR				~34 VUPS
>>> CHIMPY				230 VUPS
>>> 
>>> Itanics
>>> =======
>>> RHESUS				~300 VUPS
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> 
>>> |||H|2|Software
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> We have a bunch of stuff installed, including a pretty full set of VAX
>>> development tools. See Compilers and Applications as well as
>>> KAHUNA$:[INFO]COMPILERS.TXT and KAHUNA$:[INFO]APPS.TXT for details.
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||H|3|Applications and Utilities
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> Uhhh, like, this section is not done yet.
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||H|3|Compilers
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> VAX Development Tools on HILANET
>>> 
>>> Compilers
>>> ---------
>>> BASIC     039
>>> BLISS32   047
>>> CC        064
>>> COBOL     057
>>> CXX       056
>>> PASCAL    058
>>> FORTRAN   066
>>> 
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> Other tools
>>> -----------
>>> DECSET    124
>>> VAX/RSX   025   (Only on LABVAX:: and SIIKAX::)
>>> KEDNOSPLI 038
>>> 
>>> Mail us at HILANT::SYSTEM or sampsa at mac.com if you'd like to see something
>>> added to these.
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> 
>>> |||H|2|Disks
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> KUHAVX is the boot server and serves out most disks, including paging.
>>> KUHAVX serves out a large-ish bound volume (~13 GB) called KAHUNA$
>>> LABVAX also serves out an 80 GB bound volume called WHALE$
>>> 
>>> Most users will have their home directories on either WHALE$ or KAHUNA$
>>> so no need to worry about disk space per se.
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||H|2|Nodes
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> LABVAX:: and SIIKAX:: are by far the most powerful nodes with 512 MBs of
>>> RAM and about 26 / 20 VUPS respectively.
>>> 
>>> If you need to compile something huge etc, do it on SIIKAX or LABVAX.
>>> 
>>> K4VX1:: and K4VX2:: are also quite fast (~22/~12 VUPS) but only have 32 and 24
>>> MBs of RAM respectively.
>>> 
>>> KUHAVX:: is the boot node, so try to run your heavier jobs on the faster nodes.
>>> 
>>> HPIVAX:: is one of those "Because it can be done" systems, a Raspberry
>>> Pi running SIMH VAX on Debian.
>>> 
>>> GIFTVX:: and SIIRI:: are there for authenticity, not very powerful but
>>> fun nonetheless.
>>> 
>>> See KAHUNA$:[INFO]PERFORMANCE.TXT for more details.
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||H|2|Queues
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> Please see KAHUNA$:[INFO]PERFORMANCE.TXT to get an idea where to submit
>>> your job - we recommend LABVAX or SIIKAX.
>>> 
>>> If you want to submit a job to another cluster member, the following
>>> queues have been set up:
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> General batch queues:
>>> 
>>> SYS$BATCH_LABVAX$ on LABVAX::
>>> SYS$BATCH_SIIKAX$ on SIIKAX::
>>> SYS$BATCH_GIFTVX$ on GIFTVX::
>>> SYS$BATCH_HPIVAX$ on HPIVAX::
>>> SYS$BATCH_K4VX1$ on K4VX1::
>>> SYS$BATCH_K4VX2$ on K4VX2::
>>> SYS$BATCH_KUHAVX$ on KUHAVX::
>>> 
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> Build queues:
>>> 
>>> SYS$BUILD_LABVAX$ on LABVAX::
>>> SYS$BUILD_SIIKAX$ on SIIKAX::
>>> SYS$BATCH_SIIRI$ on SIIRI::
>>> SYS$BUILD_GIFTVX$ on GIFTVX::
>>> SYS$BUILD_HPIVAX$ on HPIVAX::
>>> SYS$BUILD_K4VX1$ on K4VX1::
>>> SYS$BUILD_K4VX2$ on K4VX2::
>>> SYS$BUILD_KUHAVX$ on KUHAVX::
>>> SYS$BUILD_SIIRI$ on SIIRI::
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> 
>>> |||H|2|Networking
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> General rule of thumb to network use:
>>> 
>>> 	Please try to behave.
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||H|3|DECNET
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> All the nodes are connected to HECnet over DECNET and have direct
>>> access to all other nodes on it.
>>> 
>>> |||H|3|TCP/IP
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> KUHAVX is running MULTINET so has full Internet access.
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||H|3|LAT
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> LAT is running on most nodes - you should not need to use it
>>> as pretty much everything is running DECNET, with the exception
>>> of PYFFLE where CTERM borks for some reason.
>>> 
>>> If you want to access PYFFLE (my awesome Waffle clone) either
>>> type PYFFLE at a DCL prompt or do SET HOST/LAT PYFFLE.
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>>  ***WARNING - SERIOUSLY, DON'T MESS WITH THESE:  ****
>>> 
>>>  DO NOT TOUCH SERVICES CALLED *CON - these are OPA0
>>>  consoles for various hardware (password protected
>>>  of course).
>>> 
>>>  ***END OF FASCIST WARNING MESSAGE               ****
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||H|3|KERMIT
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> We have C-Kermit 8.0.211 installed - this is a very flexible
>>> way to transmit and receive files from HILANT and HECnet.
>>> 
>>> In fact the writer uses it as his default method of connecting
>>> from his OS X boxes as it even supports Telnet.
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> 
>>> |||H|3|Other boxes in the area
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> QAMAR:: is an emulated AlphaServer ES40 with one 500 MHz CPU
>>> and 512 MB RAM. It's running on a Core 2 Duo T9900/3.07 GHz Win7
>>> host so whilst not blisteringly fast, it works.
>>> 
>>> There are default proxies setup between QAMAR:: and the cluster
>>> so you have FAL access to your home directories etc on both.
>>> 
>>> SOLAR5:: is another emulated AlphaServer - this is used for
>>> Arcsight log collection, no accounts will be created on this
>>> box.
>>> 
>>> With this in mind, we suggest CHIMPY:: (SAMPSACOM / LONDON)
>>> for any serious Alpha work.
>>> 
>>> Email KUHAVX::SAMPSA for an account on QAMAR::/SHAMS:: if you
>>> feel the need..
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> |||H|2|More information
>>> |||SECTSTART
>>> Look in KAHUNA$:[INFO], we will try to place any useful documentation
>>> there.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions, mail them to KUHAVX::SAMPSA or sampsa at mac.com
>>> |||SECTEND
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>> New Kensington, PA
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