[HECnet] Asymmetric connectivity in a cluster

dwe-6006 at philtest.org dwe-6006 at philtest.org
Sun Apr 22 17:14:57 PDT 2018


I agree with you, on the other hand they should be consistently the wrong thing in consistently the same way :(

--Dave

 

 

From: Johnny Billquist [mailto:bqt at softjar.se] 
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 7:11 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE; dwe-6006 at philtest.org
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Asymmetric connectivity in a cluster

 

I haven't really looked at what this might be, but one reflection is that ncp is not really the right tool of you're running decnet+.

Johnny 



dwe-6006 at philtest.org <mailto:dwe-6006 at philtest.org>  skrev: (23 april 2018 01:01:28 CEST)

I’m not sure that asymmetric is the correct description but I can’t think of a better term. I am using SIMH and I have a two node cluster (with a quorum disk) the two nodes have a common system disk. 

The two nodes are RODNEL (1.1) booting from SYS0 and ADV2 (1.3) booting from SYS2. Both are running DECnet Plus both are running Multinet for the IP stack. At one time there was also a node (never actually a member of the cluster called HCBVAX (1.2) it booted from SYS1 but it no longer exists.

The nodes are connected over an Ethernet and the MAC addresses are the ones that I would expect AA-00-04-00-01-04 (1.1) and AA-00-04-00-03-04 (1.3)  HCBVAX was AA-00-04-00-02-04 (1.2)

I can login to RODNEL and “set host adv2” with no problem, I can login to ADV2 and “set host rondel” with no problem. On each of the nodes I can “show cluster” and I see what I expect to see with no errors. While logged in to RODNEL the command “moni cluster” works fine. While logged in to ADV2 the wheels seem to fall off the bus – “show cluster” is fine but “moni cluster” isn’t Any help would be appreciated. This is the information that I have gathered so far (I am not happy with the forwarding address in the error message from “moni proc” on ADV2 which seems to arise from RODNEL 

--Dave

View of Cluster from system ID 1027  node: ADV2            22-APR-2018 22:24:50

+-----------------------------+

¦      SYSTEMS      ¦ MEMBERS ¦

+-------------------+---------¦

¦  NODE  ¦ SOFTWARE ¦  STATUS ¦

+--------+----------+---------¦

¦ ADV2   ¦ VMS V7.3 ¦ MEMBER  ¦

¦ RODNEL ¦ VMS V7.3 ¦ MEMBER  ¦

+-----------------------------+

^Z

$

$ moni cluster

%MONITOR-I-ESTABCON, establishing connection to remote node(s)...

%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  22-APR-2018 22:24:56.75  %%%%%%%%%%%

Message from user SYSTEM on RODNEL

Event: Address Unreachable PDU Discard from: Node LOCAL:.RODNEL Routing,

        at: 2018-04-22-23:24:56.740-04:00Iinf

        Discard Reason=Destination Addrs Unknown,

        Source Address=49::00-01:AA-00-04-00-03-04:21,

        Forwarding Address=49::00-01:AA-00-04-00-02-04:21

        eventUid   FC95D640-467B-11E8-99E1-AA0004000104

        entityUid  5683CC80-467B-11E8-8004-AA0004000104

        streamUid  5A113900-467B-11E8-8004-AA0004000104

Still on ADV2 - NCP is odd as well:

$ mcr ncp

NCP>sho exec char

 

Node Volatile Characteristics as of 22-APR-2018 22:31:17

Executor node = 1.3 (ADV2)

Identification           = DECnet-OSI for OpenVMS

Management version       = V4.0.0

Incoming timer           = 0

Outgoing timer           = 0

NSP version              = V4.1.0

Maximum links            = 0

Delay factor             = 0

Delay weight             = 0

Inactivity timer         = 0

Retransmit factor        = 0

Routing version          = V2.0.0

Type                     = nonrouting IV

Routing timer            = 0

Subaddresses             = 0

Broadcast routing timer  = 0

Maximum address          = 0

Maximum circuits         = 0

Maximum cost             = 0

Maximum hops             = 0

Maximum visits           = 0

Maximum area             = 0

Max broadcast nonrouters = 0

Max broadcast routers    = 0

Maximum path splits      = 0

Area maximum cost        = 0

Area maximum hops        = 0

Maximum buffers          = 0

Segment buffer size      = 0

Buffer size              = 0

Pipeline quota           = 0

Alias maximum links      = 0

Path split policy        = Normal

Maximum Declared Objects = 0

 

NCP>show know nodes

 

Known Node Volatile Summary as of 22-APR-2018 22:31:29

Executor node = 1.3 (ADV2)

State                    = on

Identification           = DECnet-OSI for OpenVMS

 

NCP>def node rodnel

Node address          (1.1-63.1023): 1.1

Node name          (1-6 characters): rodnel

NCP>set node rodnel all

%NCP-W-UNRCMP, Unrecognized component

 

NCP>set node rodnel

Node address          (1.1-63.1023): 1.1

Node name          (1-6 characters): rodnel

%NCP-W-UNRCMP, Unrecognized component , Node

 

NCP>exit

Whereas RODNEL seems happier:

 

NCP>sho exec char

 

Node Volatile Characteristics as of 22-APR-2018 20:15:29

Executor node = 1.1 (RODNEL)

Identification           = DECnet-OSI for OpenVMS

Management version       = V4.0.0

Incoming timer           = 0

Outgoing timer           = 0

NSP version              = V4.1.0

Maximum links            = 0

Delay factor             = 0

Delay weight             = 0

Inactivity timer         = 0

Retransmit factor        = 0

Routing version          = V2.0.0

Type                     = nonrouting IV

Routing timer            = 0

Subaddresses             = 0

Broadcast routing timer  = 0

Maximum address          = 0

Maximum circuits         = 0

Maximum cost             = 0

Maximum hops             = 0

Maximum visits           = 0

Maximum area             = 0

Max broadcast nonrouters = 0

Max broadcast routers    = 0

Maximum path splits      = 0

Area maximum cost        = 0

Area maximum hops        = 0

Maximum buffers          = 0

Segment buffer size      = 0

Buffer size              = 0

Pipeline quota           = 0

Alias maximum links      = 0

Path split policy        = Normal

Maximum Declared Objects = 0

 

NCP>sho kno node

 

Known Node Volatile Summary as of 22-APR-2018 20:15:37

Executor node = 1.1 (RODNEL)

State                    = on

Identification           = DECnet-OSI for OpenVMS

 

    Node           State      Active  Delay   Circuit     Next node

                              Links

 1.3 (ADV2)                                                 1.1 (RODNEL)

NCP>sho node adv2 char

 

Node Volatile Characteristics as of 22-APR-2018 20:16:02

Remote node =   1.3 (ADV2)

Service password         = 0000000000000000


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