[HECnet] Asymmetric connectivity in a cluster

Johnny Billquist bqt at softjar.se
Mon Apr 23 10:13:01 PDT 2018


On 23.04.18 02:14, dwe-6006 at philtest.org wrote:
> I agree with you, on the other hand they should be consistently the 
> wrong thing in consistently the same way L

Who said they are acting differently?
The thing is, RODNEL *knows* who ADV1 is, but ADV1 does not know RODNEL, 
and you cannot define RODNEL on ADV1 using NCP. You are using DECnet+...

   Johnny

> 
> --Dave
> 
> *From:*Johnny Billquist [mailto:bqt at softjar.se]
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 22, 2018 7:11 PM
> *To:* hecnet at Update.UU.SE; dwe-6006 at philtest.org
> *Subject:* Re: [HECnet] Asymmetric connectivity in a cluster
> 
> I haven't really looked at what this might be, but one reflection is 
> that ncp is not really the right tool of you're running decnet+.
> 
> Johnny
> 
> dwe-6006 at philtest.org <mailto:dwe-6006 at philtest.org> skrev: (23 april 
> 2018 01:01:28 CEST)
> 
>     I’m not sure that asymmetric is the correct description but I can’t
>     think of a better term. I am using SIMH and I have a two node
>     cluster (with a quorum disk) the two nodes have a common system disk.
> 
>     The two nodes are RODNEL (1.1) booting from SYS0 and ADV2 (1.3)
>     booting from SYS2. Both are running DECnet Plus both are running
>     Multinet for the IP stack. At one time there was also a node (never
>     actually a member of the cluster called HCBVAX (1.2) it booted from
>     SYS1 but it no longer exists.
> 
>     The nodes are connected over an Ethernet and the MAC addresses are
>     the ones that I would expect AA-00-04-00-01-04 (1.1) and
>     AA-00-04-00-03-04 (1.3)  HCBVAX was AA-00-04-00-02-04 (1.2)
> 
>     I can login to RODNEL and “set host adv2” with no problem, I can
>     login to ADV2 and “set host rondel” with no problem. On each of the
>     nodes I can “show cluster” and I see what I expect to see with no
>     errors. While logged in to RODNEL the command “moni cluster” works
>     fine. While logged in to ADV2 the wheels seem to fall off the bus –
>     “show cluster” is fine but “moni cluster” isn’t Any help would be
>     appreciated. This is the information that I have gathered so far (I
>     am not happy with the forwarding address in the error message from
>     “moni proc” on ADV2 which seems to arise from RODNEL
> 
>     --Dave
> 
>     View of Cluster from system ID 1027  node: ADV2           
>     22-APR-2018 22:24:50
> 
>     +-----------------------------+
> 
>     ¦      SYSTEMS      ¦ MEMBERS ¦
> 
>     +-------------------+---------¦
> 
>     ¦  NODE  ¦ SOFTWARE ¦  STATUS ¦
> 
>     +--------+----------+---------¦
> 
>     ¦ ADV2   ¦ VMS V7.3 ¦ MEMBER  ¦
> 
>     ¦ RODNEL ¦ VMS V7.3 ¦ MEMBER  ¦
> 
>     +-----------------------------+
> 
>     ^Z
> 
>     $
> 
>     $ moni cluster
> 
>     %MONITOR-I-ESTABCON, establishing connection to remote node(s)...
> 
>     %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  22-APR-2018 22:24:56.75  %%%%%%%%%%%
> 
>     Message from user SYSTEM on RODNEL
> 
>     Event: Address Unreachable PDU Discard from: Node LOCAL:.RODNEL Routing,
> 
>              at: 2018-04-22-23:24:56.740-04:00Iinf
> 
>              Discard Reason=Destination Addrs Unknown,
> 
>              Source Address=49::00-01:AA-00-04-00-03-04:21,
> 
>              Forwarding Address=49::00-01:AA-00-04-00-02-04:21
> 
>              eventUid   FC95D640-467B-11E8-99E1-AA0004000104
> 
>              entityUid  5683CC80-467B-11E8-8004-AA0004000104
> 
>              streamUid  5A113900-467B-11E8-8004-AA0004000104
> 
>     Still on ADV2 - NCP is odd as well:
> 
>     $ mcr ncp
> 
>     NCP>sho exec char
> 
>     Node Volatile Characteristics as of 22-APR-2018 22:31:17
> 
>     Executor node = 1.3 (ADV2)
> 
>     Identification           = DECnet-OSI for OpenVMS
> 
>     Management version       = V4.0.0
> 
>     Incoming timer           = 0
> 
>     Outgoing timer           = 0
> 
>     NSP version              = V4.1.0
> 
>     Maximum links            = 0
> 
>     Delay factor             = 0
> 
>     Delay weight             = 0
> 
>     Inactivity timer         = 0
> 
>     Retransmit factor        = 0
> 
>     Routing version          = V2.0.0
> 
>     Type                     = nonrouting IV
> 
>     Routing timer            = 0
> 
>     Subaddresses             = 0
> 
>     Broadcast routing timer  = 0
> 
>     Maximum address          = 0
> 
>     Maximum circuits         = 0
> 
>     Maximum cost             = 0
> 
>     Maximum hops             = 0
> 
>     Maximum visits           = 0
> 
>     Maximum area             = 0
> 
>     Max broadcast nonrouters = 0
> 
>     Max broadcast routers    = 0
> 
>     Maximum path splits      = 0
> 
>     Area maximum cost        = 0
> 
>     Area maximum hops        = 0
> 
>     Maximum buffers          = 0
> 
>     Segment buffer size      = 0
> 
>     Buffer size              = 0
> 
>     Pipeline quota           = 0
> 
>     Alias maximum links      = 0
> 
>     Path split policy        = Normal
> 
>     Maximum Declared Objects = 0
> 
>     NCP>show know nodes
> 
>     Known Node Volatile Summary as of 22-APR-2018 22:31:29
> 
>     Executor node = 1.3 (ADV2)
> 
>     State                    = on
> 
>     Identification           = DECnet-OSI for OpenVMS
> 
>     NCP>def node rodnel
> 
>     Node address          (1.1-63.1023): 1.1
> 
>     Node name          (1-6 characters): rodnel
> 
>     NCP>set node rodnel all
> 
>     %NCP-W-UNRCMP, Unrecognized component
> 
>     NCP>set node rodnel
> 
>     Node address          (1.1-63.1023): 1.1
> 
>     Node name          (1-6 characters): rodnel
> 
>     %NCP-W-UNRCMP, Unrecognized component , Node
> 
>     NCP>exit
> 
>     Whereas RODNEL seems happier:
> 
>     NCP>sho exec char
> 
>     Node Volatile Characteristics as of 22-APR-2018 20:15:29
> 
>     Executor node = 1.1 (RODNEL)
> 
>     Identification           = DECnet-OSI for OpenVMS
> 
>     Management version       = V4.0.0
> 
>     Incoming timer           = 0
> 
>     Outgoing timer           = 0
> 
>     NSP version              = V4.1.0
> 
>     Maximum links            = 0
> 
>     Delay factor             = 0
> 
>     Delay weight             = 0
> 
>     Inactivity timer         = 0
> 
>     Retransmit factor        = 0
> 
>     Routing version          = V2.0.0
> 
>     Type                     = nonrouting IV
> 
>     Routing timer            = 0
> 
>     Subaddresses             = 0
> 
>     Broadcast routing timer  = 0
> 
>     Maximum address          = 0
> 
>     Maximum circuits         = 0
> 
>     Maximum cost             = 0
> 
>     Maximum hops             = 0
> 
>     Maximum visits           = 0
> 
>     Maximum area             = 0
> 
>     Max broadcast nonrouters = 0
> 
>     Max broadcast routers    = 0
> 
>     Maximum path splits      = 0
> 
>     Area maximum cost        = 0
> 
>     Area maximum hops        = 0
> 
>     Maximum buffers          = 0
> 
>     Segment buffer size      = 0
> 
>     Buffer size              = 0
> 
>     Pipeline quota           = 0
> 
>     Alias maximum links      = 0
> 
>     Path split policy        = Normal
> 
>     Maximum Declared Objects = 0
> 
>     NCP>sho kno node
> 
>     Known Node Volatile Summary as of 22-APR-2018 20:15:37
> 
>     Executor node = 1.1 (RODNEL)
> 
>     State                    = on
> 
>     Identification           = DECnet-OSI for OpenVMS
> 
>          Node           State      Active  Delay   Circuit     Next node
> 
>                                    Links
> 
>       1.3 (ADV2)                                                 1.1
>     (RODNEL)
> 
>     NCP>sho node adv2 char
> 
>     Node Volatile Characteristics as of 22-APR-2018 20:16:02
> 
>     Remote node =   1.3 (ADV2)
> 
>     Service password         = 0000000000000000
> 
> 
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Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol


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