[HECnet] Tops-20 ANONYMOUS FAL Preliminary Testing Results/DAP Query

[Steve Davidson]

VMS phone was a hack by Paul Agnastopolous (sp?) from the VMS mail sources. The other implementations came later. I remember talking to Paul about it. He was very insistent that it was truly a HACK!

-Steve Davidson

SF:iP1

> On Dec 26, 2019, at 11:18, John Forecast <john at forecast.name> wrote:
> 
> 
>>>> On Dec 25, 2019, at 5:44 PM, Thomas DeBellis <tommytimesharing at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> What language did you implement in?  I've got a number of sources in BLISS, some of which don't appear to have originated on the 36 bit platform; perhaps some version of DAP for FTS.
>>>> 
>>> As Johnny pointed out, pretty much everything was written in Macro-11. PHONE was not midnight project during Phase III IIRC.
>>> How did it work between you RSX folks and the people doing whatever was in the DN20's?  The 20 host got up to being a Phase IV router, but I don't believe the DN20's went past Phase III.
>> 
>> Are you talking about MCB? Sometime during Phase III development, we were asked to produce a source kit for LCG. That was pretty much the only interaction we had other than doing certification testing before a release. 
>> 
>>   John.
>> 
>>> On 12/25/2019 12:43 PM, John Forecast wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve never seen a Phase I protocol spec but DECnet/8 was probably closer to Phase I than Phase II although the dates in the source code appear to cover both phases. Even after Phase II development started the protocols were still being updated - datagram service was still in the NSP spec in early 1977 but was dropped about half way through the development cycle. One advantage we had for DECnet-RSX development (11M/11S/11D and IAS) was that they all shared common protocol processing code, which had been written for an earlier advanced development project, so protocol changes were relatively easy to make.
>>> 
>>>    John.
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