[HECnet] Anonymous FAL (Tops-20)
Thomas DeBellis
tommytimesharing at gmail.com
Wed Jul 3 10:51:06 PDT 2019
It's nothing like VMS, but that is an extremely long and unfortunate
story. DECnet appears to have been designed into VMS from the start and
appears well integrated whereas Tops-20's antecedents (TENEX) completely
predate DECnet. The original networking interface was NCP: (I.E., ARPAnet).
In certain ways, Tops-20 DECnet appears as kind of a 'bolt-on', some of
it not fully productized. The 7 series monitor code is robust, but the
user utilities are not fully documented and exhibit certain programming
flaws. At Columbia we fixed a great deal of these, SPR'ed them and yet
the changes appear lost. I used to have magtapes someplace...
I'll have a look at FAL; at first glance it has no hooks for a default
account, which would then allow complete system access. I still have to
complete fixing the issue in DAP that causes it to break when listing
long directories (which triggers another glitch in GLXLIB...) DAP
seems strangely incomplete; it is missing code to do renames which
struck me as remarkable.
However, checking out what VMS does is never a bad idea.
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> On 7/3/2019 11:36 AM, Robert Armstrong wrote:
>
> I've no idea what TOPS20 does, but ...
>
> On VMS the NETCONFIG script creates a default account for FAL called FAL$SERVER. Anonymous access to FAL just logs in using this account and you can see whatever files are in the associated login directory, typically SYS$SPECIFIC:[FAL$SERVER].
>
> TOPS20 probably uses different names, but I imagine that the basic idea is similar...
>
> Bob
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> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Thomas DeBellis
> Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 5:15 AM
> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
> Subject: [HECnet] Anonymous FAL (Tops-20)
>
> I have some software that I'd like to post, but don't recall how to configure FAL to allow for an anonymous connection; to download from a restricted directory.
>
> I know how to do it for the FTP server (seeing as I wrote it), but ... different code base.
>
> I can only vaguely remember what we did for CCnet at Columbia University in the 1980's, but I think it was kind of a hack.
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