[HECnet] Decnet on RSX-11

[Kurt Hamm]

Hmmm, I don't see that task in the [5,54] directory.

This is what I have:
NTINIT.TSK;1        19.     C  25-JAN-1999 15:47
NTL.TSK;1           231.    C  25-JAN-1999 15:47
NCPFSL.TSK;1        265.    C  25-JAN-1999 15:47
NMDRV.TSK;1         4.      C  06-JUN-2019 18:24
NMDRV.STB;1         1.         06-JUN-2019 18:24
NMVACP.TSK;1        210.    C  25-JAN-1999 15:47
NMVACP.STB;1        7.         25-JAN-1999 15:47
NDA.TSK;1           296.    C  25-JAN-1999 15:48
NETACP.TSK;1        25.     C  06-JUN-2019 18:25
NETACP.STB;1        9.         06-JUN-2019 18:25
NICE.TSK;1          16.     C  25-JAN-1999 15:45
NTD.TSK;1           50.     C  25-JAN-1999 15:45
NTDEMO.TSK;1        18.     C  25-JAN-1999 15:45
NVPFSL.TSK;1        19.     C  25-JAN-1999 15:45
NNCFSL.TSK;1        82.     C  25-JAN-1999 15:46
NNDRV.TSK;1         3.      C  25-JAN-1999 15:46
NNDRV.STB;1         1.      C  25-JAN-1999 15:46
NNS.TSK;1           99.     C  25-JAN-1999 15:46
NNS.DAT;11          19.        25-JAN-1999 15:46
NNS.TMP;151         10.        09-JUN-2019 00:03
NFTFSL.TSK;1        132.    C  06-JUN-2019 18:26
NCT.TSK;1           8.      C  06-JUN-2019 18:29
NCT.STB;1           3.         06-JUN-2019 18:29
NCT1.TSK;1          14.     C  06-JUN-2019 18:29
NCT1.STB;1          3.         06-JUN-2019 18:29
NCTCTL.TSK;1        27.     C  06-JUN-2019 18:29
NCT.DAT;10          4.         25-JAN-1999 15:45

On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 6:42 PM Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:

> Ok, a quick rundown on some of the more esoteric details about lines and
> circuits might be useful here.
>
> First of all, Kurt, you might want to redo the NETGEN and not set the
> system up for DECnet routing. It takes a lot of resources, and if you
> don't really want it, you are much better off with a system not even
> generated for it.
>
> The question about remote nodes are just for an initial population of
> your local nodename database. All you need there is really to define MIM
> (1.13). You can then copy the whole nodename database from MIM over to
> your machine that way instead. Let me know if you want some details on
> that step.
>
>
> On 2019-06-08 22:25, Mark Matlock wrote:
> > Kurt,
> >     If you want two circuits like UNA-0 and IP-0-0 I think you have to
> > be a routing node (but not an area router).
>
> Not really, but maybe. If you define multiple circuits, and are an
> end-node, only one circuit will be active. But others can exist, and the
> system will fall back to some other circuit if the active one goes down.
> So it can be used as a back connection.
>
> However, even as an end-node, you can have several *lines* on and active
> at the same time. And this is a trick to use if you want DECnet-over-IP,
> but want to be an endnode. You need ethernet for TCP/IP to work, but you
> do not want DECnet to use the ethernet circuit.
>
> But you configure one IP line as well, and that is the one DECnet will
> be using. Meanwhile, TCP/IP is using the ethernet line.
>
> It might sound a little confusing, but think about it for a second, and
> I hope it becomes clear. Otherwise, just ask, and I'll try to explain it
> better.
>
> > Also, you should define all the nodes you want to talk to with NCP in
> > one of the startup files or do it with CFE but I prefer startup so it’s
> > simple to change.
>
> I would actually say that you wouldn't. Of course, there is nothing
> wrong in doing this, but if you want the full HECnet nodename database,
> it contains 700 nodes. That will take a while to type in.
>
> However, you can copy the nodename database from another DECnet node,
> and then use this.
>
> But you need at least the nodename of someone where you will be copying
> from to start with, which is why I suggested adding MIM at the start.
>
> After that, there is [5,54]NNC which is the nodename collector task. Run
> it, collect names from another node, and build a new database with this.
> Then stop and restart the node name server, and you have all the nodes
> defined.
>
> (The node name server is managed by the command SCP.
> So, SCP STOP followed by SCP START will do it.)
>
>    Johnny
>
> --
> Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
>                                    ||  on a psychedelic trip
> email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
> pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
>
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