[HECnet] Fortran-77 on RSTS/E V10.1

[Wilm Boerhout]

In RSTS, the patches for layered products are also in the OS 
distribution. The installer picks up the patches after the installation 
proper.
So whatever was available for F77 V5.4 in '92 when the RSTS 10.1 tape 
was issued, is effectively installed on PIRSTS:: now

Thank you,

/Wilm

Johnny Billquist schreef op 9-7-2020 om 02:22:
> Yes, you goofed. :-)
>
> BRU is, just as Paul said, an RSX specific tool. And had you read the 
> installation manual properly the first time, you would have known it's 
> RESTORE you are supposed to do. :-)
>
> The F77 V5.4 installation manual on MIM covers all the OSes.
>
> Anyway, happy to see your problems have been solved, and that MIM was 
> of help. And Paul, just as an FYI - the installation manual do point 
> out that the process for V5.4 is different than previous versions. So 
> I guess that was one of the last changes DEC did...
>
> And Wilm, you should probably check out the RSTS/E distribution, if 
> there isn't a bunch of patches for F77 in there. I know there are for 
> RSX, fixing a number of issues and Y2K details that was done long 
> after the 5.4 release was done. In RSX, patches for layered products 
> were included on the OS distributions.
>
>   Johnny
>
> On 2020-07-08 21:57, Wilm Boerhout wrote:
>> I goofed.
>>
>> Although BRU may or may not work on RSTS, it is definitely not needed 
>> for the upgrade from Fortran-77 from V5.3 to V5.4
>>
>> The installation of the Auto-Installer uses RSTS "restore" to get 
>> AUTOIN.COM and associated stuff from tape to the AUTOIN$: account.
>>
>> I simply got my installation pages mixed up. Sorry for the confusion.
>>
>> I am now running V5.4 of Fortran-77 on HECnet node PIRSTS::
>>
>> /Wilm
>>
>> Wilm Boerhout schreef op 8-7-2020 om 20:07:
>>> Well, the manual is for Fortran-77 on all -11 OS's, including VAX-11 
>>> RSX.
>>>
>>> The instructions for installing the Auto-Install script are in the 
>>> RSTS section of the installation manual, and on RSTS, the AUTOIN$: 
>>> logical is present, pointing to the [0,80] account.
>>>
>>>
>>> /Wilm
>>>
>>> Paul Koning schreef op 8-7-2020 om 20:00:
>>>> That sounds like the RSX installation manual.  RSTS doesn't have 
>>>> anything called BRU, never did.
>>>>
>>>>     paul
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Wilm Boerhout <wboerhout at gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> MIM to the rescue! -- or, sort of..
>>>>>
>>>>> On the MIM manuals page, there is the Fortran-77 T5.4 installation 
>>>>> manual. As it turns out, this update needs to be installed from 
>>>>> tape using the auto-instal mechanism.
>>>>>
>>>>> The first step in this procedure, according to the manual, is to 
>>>>> restore the auto-installer script from the tape using BRU. But-  
>>>>> BRU is not present on my V10.1 system.
>>>>> I thought BRU would be part of the "RSX Utilities" package, but it 
>>>>> is not.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, the question has changed to "Where is BRU when you need her?"
>>>>>
>>>>> /*Wilm*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wilm Boerhout schreef op 7-7-2020 om 13:48:
>>>>>> In the meantime, I succesfully installed Fortran 77 V5.3 on RSTS 
>>>>>> 10.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The tape file has the same origin as the V5.4 tape, 
>>>>>> ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/rsts_dists/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As it turns out, the V5.4 tape file is neither an INSTAL nor an 
>>>>>> UPDATE tape image. (@[0,1]UPDATE FRTRN77 fails with the same 
>>>>>> error message).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /Wilm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wilm Boerhout schreef op 6-7-2020 om 16:09:
>>>>>>> I'm trying to get the Fortran-77 compiler installed on PIRSTS:: 
>>>>>>> , which is a working system on HECnet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a TPC-formatted tape image with the name fortran-77_v5_4.tap
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I mount that tape, these are the contents:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $ mount mu0: F77504 %Device is write protected Density is 135 
>>>>>>> Tape is in ANSI format $ dir mu0: Name .Typ Size Name .Typ Size 
>>>>>>> Name .Typ Size MU0: AUT101.A * 244 P AUTVER.BCK* 1 P F77F77.BCK* 
>>>>>>> 3 P F77REL.BCK* 7 P F77504.A * 407 P Total of 662 blocks in 5 
>>>>>>> files in MU0:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, during the installation I copied all layered product 
>>>>>>> patches to PATCH$, including what looks like patches for this 
>>>>>>> version of Fortran-77:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $ dir patch$:f*.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Name .Typ Size Prot Name .Typ Size Prot SY:[0,200] FALDBG.TSK 
>>>>>>> 225C <232> FALOVL.TSK 213C <232> FALRLB.TSK 80C <232> FEDLIB.OLB 
>>>>>>> 118 < 60> FEDTKB.CMD 1 < 60> FEDTKB.ODL 2 < 60> FMS .01L 0 < 60> 
>>>>>>> FMS .COM 38 < 60> FMS .DOC 3 < 60> FORTRA.01L 0 < 60> F77 .DOC 6 
>>>>>>> < 60> F77504.DAT 3 < 60> F77COM.OBJ 24 < 60> FRTRN7.01L 0 < 60> 
>>>>>>> Total of 713 blocks in 14 files in SY:[0,200]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, when I try to instal Fortran-77 (@[0,1]INSTAL FRTRN77) 
>>>>>>> at some point the installer ties to mount the tape and fails with:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ?ID labels don't match
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking at the INSTAL.COM script, I believe it expects a label 
>>>>>>> "FRTRN7", whereas the tape is labeled F77504.
>>>>>>> This string also appears as a file name in the PATCH$ directory 
>>>>>>> and as a file on the tape itself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clearly, there is a mismatch between the installer and the tape 
>>>>>>> image (but more likely, in my head)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did anybody successfully install Fortran-77 on RSTS V10.1L ? 
>>>>>>> How, and using what tape image?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> */Wilm*
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>
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