[HECnet] DECnet-RT?

[Zane Healy]

My PDP-11/73 is setup such that I can install RT-11 and RSX-11M+ from CD-R, and have, to test it.  RSTS/E is the tricky one.  I couldn’t figure out how to install it from CD-R, but I was able to install it from 4mm DAT, I mention this because to install DECnet/E, I had to use an actual TK50 tape.

Zane




> On Mar 31, 2020, at 7:54 AM, Robert Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
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>   One more tip – the SET DU command actually modifies the driver image ON DISK.  It does not change the driver that’s already resident in memory.  That means any SET DU changes won’t take effect until you reboot.  This is incredibly annoying, but some RT guy can probably explain why it has to be like that.
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>   Now that I mention it, I don’t know how this would work on a real CDROM since they are read only.  In the case of simh it’s not really a problem because you can easily make your CDROM image writable.
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> Bob
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> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE> [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>] On Behalf Of Peter Allan
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 7:40 AM
> To: hecnet at update.uu.se <mailto:hecnet at update.uu.se>
> Subject: Re: [HECnet] DECnet-RT?
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> Thanks Bob,
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> I thought I had done exactly that yesterday and it did not boot, but before replying I thought I should try again, just to be sure, and it worked!
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> I now realise that I just attached the file to rq0, whereas yesterday I used rq3, simply because I am used to doing that on my simulated VAX.
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> Thanks you your help. I should be able to make progress from here.
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> Peter
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> On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 15:01, Robert Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com <mailto:bob at jfcl.com>> wrote:
>>   I haven’t used this particular CDROM so I can only speculate, but here are a couple of things that might help –
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>>   RT11 has an architectural limit of 32Mb per file system.  Most disk drives, even way back then, are bigger than that and have to be partitioned if you want to use all the space.  This is an RT11 thing, not a CDROM nor a PDP-11 nor a simh, feature.
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>>   I assume the first partition on the CDROM is bootable.  You’d CDROM image to simh as a rq device and boot it.  Once RT11 is running, you can use the RT11 “SET DUn UNIT=n PART=n” command to assign the other DUn units to partitions on the same CDROM.  Check the RT11 commands manual for a description of the SET DU command.
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>>   Hope that helps,  It’s kind of vague, I know, but I haven’t used these CDROM images.
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>> Bob
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>> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE> [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>] On Behalf Of Peter Allan
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:26 AM
>> To: hecnet at update.uu.se <mailto:hecnet at update.uu.se>
>> Subject: Re: [HECnet] DECnet-RT?
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>> Thanks to Ray, I now have the v1 and v5 of the RT-11 CD (well, the ISO file of it). However, I am confused by the nature of the virtual CD.
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>> I have extracted the file RTV5RL.03 and started an installation using it. I have not continued with the installation, but it looks like it should work.So far,so good.
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>> However, the file README.1st refers to there being several RT11 partitions on the CD and that  some of these are bootable. I have never come across multiple partitions on a CD and I don't know how to access them. The SIMH ATTACH command appears to only connect to files, not partitions on a disk.
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>> So I am stuck. Any suggestions?
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>> Peter Allan

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