[HECnet] Task Buillder question

[Johnny Billquist]

Ok. Did some digging around. Found two tools:

FLCVRT (Fall 78 sig, [302,2])
LDX (Spring 80 sig, [326,213])

These can be found on MIM::DECUS:

They should be possible to mount read-only by anyone.

   Johnny

On 2021-04-12 20:09, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> Looking through the DECUS library, I see there is a tool (maybe more) to 
> convert a .TSK image into absolute loader format.
> 
> So this already exist. Bob, you can ping me directly, and I can point 
> you to it. I have it on Mim, but it's inside a disk image, and there 
> might be multiple versions, so I should research this a little, if you 
> haven't.
> 
>   Johnny
> 
> On 2021-04-12 20:02, Paul Koning wrote:
>> Ok, so you don't need overlays or any of that funny stuff.  Are there 
>> any macros in there?  You could just use the paper tape tools (pal11 
>> and link11) to do the job.  Or the assembler and linker in DOS-11.
>>
>> Alternatively, there's an assembler and linker that runs on Linux, I 
>> forgot who wrote it, it was mentioned not too long ago.
>>
>> In any case, this would be a trivial link, so converting the resulting 
>> executable image file to an equivalent LDA file would be easy enough.
>>
>>     paul
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Robert Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Thanks for the suggestions, guys, but I don't think that'll help.
>>>
>>>   What I want to do is to rebuild (after making some changes) Joe 
>>> Lang's copy of DEC's paper tape BASIC-11
>>>
>>>     http://www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/papertapeimages/DEC-11-LPTBA-B-PB_disassembly/ 
>>>
>>>
>>>   There are three MACRO-11 source files that have to be separately 
>>> assembled and then linked into an absolute memory image.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On 
>>> Behalf Of Paul Koning
>>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 10:43 AM
>>> To: hecnet at update.uu.se
>>> Subject: Re: [HECnet] Task Buillder question
>>>
>>> I don't remember the format of a task file, but object files in RSX 
>>> and RT11 are nearly identical.  The difference is that the RT11 ones 
>>> are "formatted binary", the same structure as abs loader data, where 
>>> records start with a byte of 1 followed by a byte of 0, then load 
>>> address and length (or the other way around).  RSX uses RMS variable 
>>> length records instead, so you get a record containing a load address 
>>> and data, but the length is handled by RMS.  The conversion between 
>>> the two is pretty trivial.
>>>
>>> PIP on RSTS can do this, for example RSX to RT11 would be "pip 
>>> foo.lda/fb=foo.obj".
>>>
>>> I have somewhere a Python script that turns an a.out format 
>>> executable (from the GNU linker) into an abs loader file.  Converting 
>>> that to handle task files is likely to be pretty easy.
>>>
>>>     paul
>>>
>>>> On Apr 12, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> RT emulation under RSTS should work as well.  If I can find some 
>>>> time I can fix my router and give you an account on PLUTO::  if that 
>>>> helps.
>>>>
>>>> -Steve
>>>>
>>>> SF:IP2
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 12, 2021, at 13:12, Robert Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?
>>>>>   Thanks � I don�t have RT11 at the moment; I have the RSX AME on 
>>>>> VMS.  I guess I could set up RT11 on some simh, but I was looking 
>>>>> for a shortcut.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Steve Davidson
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 10:04 AM
>>>>> To: hecnet at update.uu.se
>>>>> Subject: Re: [HECnet] Task Buillder question
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>
>>>>> You are looking for LDA format. TKB might be able to do it but LINK 
>>>>> (RT-11) certainly can.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> SF:IP2
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 12, 2021, at 12:57, Robert Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?
>>>>>   Ok, this is a bit of an off the wall question, but � can Task 
>>>>> Builder (aka TKB) build paper tape images in absolute loader 
>>>>> format?  Can anybody clue me in as to the magic switch(es) to do this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>
> 

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