[HECnet] All gone silent

Johnny Billquist bqt at softjar.se
Mon Aug 16 18:42:39 PDT 2021


GW:/home/bqt> dig mail.protonmail.ch

; <<>> DiG 9.10.5-P1 <<>> mail.protonmail.ch
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 48613
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;mail.protonmail.ch.            IN      A

;; Query time: 871 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Tue Aug 17 03:41:27 CEST 2021
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 47


Too late in the evening for me to even try figure out what I am seeing. 
But maybe you can spot it...

   Johnny

On 2021-08-17 03:40, Peter Lothberg wrote:
> (If "DIG" was used to produce output's this would be easier to debug...)
> 
> Here i my 5-cents,
> 
> DNS servers/DNS revolvers do nowadays not respond if the indirect bit is set
> in a query. This might be the thing we are seeing?
> 
> -P
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "bqt" <bqt at softjar.se>
>> To: "hecnet" <hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
>> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 9:34:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [HECnet] All gone silent
> 
>> On 2021-08-17 03:04, Paul Koning wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 16, 2021, at 6:36 PM, Mark <mwjr at protonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mystery solved (or at least the mystery of no response) - I used to have some
>>>> issues when I ran authoratitive DNS and mail directly from our school's IP
>>>> addresses rather than an 'established' (big tech co) source
>>>
>>> Why would that explain the failure to answer DNS queries?  DNS servers are
>>> supposed to answer queries from everyone.  I've never heard of failing to do
>>> so.  FWIW, I just tried asking ns1.protonmail.ch about mail.protonmail.ch, and
>>> it was happy to answer me (to my random Comcast client addresses, IPv4 and IPv6
>>> both work).
>>
>> I think the comment should be read as "that explains the failure of the
>> mail being delivered".
>>
>> Why the DNS queries are blocked from my mail server remains a mystery,
>> but it is a fact that they are.
>>
>> I could/should update that machine, in case there is something in my
>> whole setup that is a reason, but right now I can't really understand
>> what that would be...
>>
>> If I explicitly give the IP address of ns1.protonmail.ch as the name
>> server, I do get a response. Not sure if it might in the end be some
>> other name server that is refusing me, and I don't really feel like
>> trying to figure out where things are going wrong right now.
>> But maybe updating my system will help. We'll see. Something I'll try in
>> the next day or two.
>>
>>    Johnny
>>
>> --
>> Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
>>                                    ||  on a psychedelic trip
>> email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
>> pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

-- 
Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol


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