[HECnet] Oldest VAX/VMS for VAX-11/730 on HECNET

[Johnny Billquist]

Yes! Thank you! That was actually the one I was thinking of.

   Johnny

On 2021-12-09 04:26, Lee Gleason wrote:
>    I think you are recalling this one
> 
> http://www.vaxmacro.de/vbto.html
> 
>    that explains when VMS clocks will overflow. We have a little while 
> left before that's a problem.
> 
>    There will be other problems when the year increments to 5 digits, 
> but the above article assures us that there will be a fix before then...
> 
> 
>   Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR
> Control-G Consultants
> lee.gleason at comcast.net
> 
> On 12/8/2021 9:15 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>> Ah. Found it: https://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/susan/joke/decly.htm
>> But I thought it also mentioned when the VMS timestamp would run out, 
>> but I seem have misremembered. But anyway, it does show that DEC had 
>> already thought about beyond 2000 back in the early days of VMS.
>>
>>   Johnny
>>
>> On 2021-12-09 03:23, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>> Now someone just need to post the link to the answer written by 
>>> someone at DEC about the eventual wrapping of the VMS timestamp.
>>>
>>> Time in VMS is handled pretty nicely. The only real problem is that 
>>> they went with local time. Otherwise the VMS timestamp is excellent. 
>>> (I think TOPS-20 use the same thing.)
>>>
>>>    Johnny
>>>
>>> On 2021-12-09 02:44, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 8, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> While I'm sure there were various Y2K bugs around, the basic design 
>>>>> in VMS was intended from day 0 to handle dates beyond Y2K.
>>>>> So I would just try to set the correct date to start with, and if 
>>>>> something seriously breaks, then I would consider shifting it back 
>>>>> to an earlier year.
>>>>
>>>> Oh... I set the time and date when prompted during the 
>>>> installations, and then when the system time displayed as 1982, I 
>>>> assumed it was not Y2K capable. So I tried setting the time after 
>>>> booting:
>>>>
>>>>> $ show time
>>>>>     8-DEC-1982 17:39:46
>>>>> $ set time=08-DEC-2021:17:40
>>>>> $ show time
>>>>>     8-DEC-2021 17:40:02
>>>>
>>>> And then after rebooting:
>>>>
>>>>>    VAX/VMS Version V3.0 26-APR-1982 16:21
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> %OPCOM,  8-DEC-2021 17:42:34.01, logfile initialized by operator OPA0
>>>>>          logfile is SYS$MANAGER:OPERATOR.LOG
>>>>>    Login quotas - Interactive limit=64, Current interactive value=0
>>>>>    SYSTEM       job terminated at  8-DEC-2021 17:42:35.06
>>>>>
>>>>> Username: SYSTEM
>>>>> Password:
>>>>>          Welcome to VAX/VMS version V3.0
>>>>> $ show time
>>>>>     8-DEC-2021 17:42:53
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How about that!
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 

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