[HECnet] Wanted: details on "system specific" NICE messages

Paul Koning paulkoning at comcast.net
Thu Dec 16 16:22:58 PST 2021


Progress -- I found a pile of info in the RSTS NCP sources, of all places.  And this actually makes sense, because those were originally created from the RSX NCP as it was around 1980.  It even shows some DECnet/RT code points (but no VMS ones).

	paul

> On Dec 16, 2021, at 5:47 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
> 
> Better than nothing, but definitely not exhaustive. I know... But that's the only thing I have apart from sources.
> 
>  Johnny
> 
> On 2021-12-16 23:03, Paul Koning wrote:
>> Thanks.  That gives parameter code points.  It doesn't seem to give request function codes, nor how the message is encoded.  NICE standard formatting seems plausible but the standard doesn't require that.
>> 	paul
>>> On Dec 16, 2021, at 5:07 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Paul - http://mim.update.uu.se/manuals/network/decnet2.pdf appendix F will have at least a little bit of stuff for you.
>>> 
>>>  Johnny
>>> 
>>> On 2021-12-16 02:15, Paul Koning wrote:
>>>> I'm thinking it would be nice (in the tools with PyDECnet) to be able to do not just standard NICE requests like any other NCP, but also system-specific ones.
>>>> I can find out what the RSTS ones look like, but I don't know about other systems.  I'm pretty sure that both VMS and RSX have system-specific requests, SHOW and/or SET, for things like network objects or logical links and perhaps other stuff.  Is there documentation that describes these?  Does anyone have information handy?
>>>> A few days ago VMS listings (from fiche) appeared in Bitsavers, and I suppose I can try to read NCP listings that are in there.  Chances are they are in BLISS which I don't know at all...
>>>> 	paul
>>> 
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> 
> -- 
> Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
>                                  ||  on a psychedelic trip
> email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
> pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol




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