[HECnet] DECnet on VMS version3

[Dave McGuire]

   Ahhhh ok, I was unaware of that!  I was a VMS sysadmin for many years 
running 4.7 and 5.x systems, but our (US Gov't related) systems were not 
allowed to be networked, so I never had any experience with that.

   So it actually patches netacp.exe?!  Wow that's nuts!

             -Dave

On 2/21/21 2:39 PM, Peter Allan wrote:
> You are quite correct that LMF did not appear until VMS version 5. Prior 
> to that you needed to install what was called a DECnet key to let you 
> use DECnet on VMS. I do recall having to do this back when I managed a 
> VAX-11/780 that ran VMS 3.x,and later VMS 4.x. Installing the so-called 
> key actually patches the file NETACP.EXE.
> 
> My reference to a license was because that is actually what the system 
> complains about the lack of when I try to start DECnet. Clearly this is 
> not an LMF license.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 18:43, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com 
> <mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 2/21/21 12:36 PM, Peter Allan wrote:
>      > I am trying to get DECnet working on a simulated VAX 780 (with simh)
>      > with a 3.x version of VMS. This is largely for nostalgic reasons.
>      >
>      > I have the version of VMS 3.0 from John Dundas that Supratim posted
>      > nearly a year ago. I have also built a VMS 3.0 system by
>     installing VMS
>      > from the VMS 3.0 distribution tape. Both of those systems seem to
>      > work well.
>      >
>      > However I am failing to find a way of getting DECnet working. I
>     have a
>      > DECnet end node key (and a routing key, come to that) from
>      > http://iamvirtual.ca/VAX11/VAX-11-software.html but that says
>     that it
>      > only works for VMS 3.4 or later. I did try it on 3.0 anyway, but
>     it did
>      > not get DECnet to work. It complains about needing a license.
>      >
>      > Can anyone help me either upgrade my VMS 3.0 system to VMS 3.4 or
>     higher
>      > (or just install the higher version from scratch), or help me find a
>      > DECnet key that works with VMS 3.0.
> 
>         LMF didn't appear in VMS until v5.0.  Is there some other licensing
>     scheme for pre-VMS-5 DECnet that I'm unaware of?  I certainly don't
>     remember any.  Lacking that, are you certain the DECnet package you're
>     trying to get running is compatible with VMS 3.0?
> 
>                 -Dave
> 
>     -- 
>     Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>     New Kensington, PA
> 


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