[HECnet] DDCMP sync?
Mark Curtis
mark.curtis at aardvarks-and-platypus.com
Tue Jan 26 00:49:00 PST 2021
The Z85C30 is indeed still available - I got one recently - you can get
them on mouser at various speed ratings (8 and 10s mainly). No doubt
other places will supply them as well.
M
On 26/01/2021 05:53, Dave McGuire wrote:
> On 1/25/21 8:46 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
>> In playing with DECnet I built a DDCMP implementation which deals
>> with a byte stream, normally from a UART. So that works nicely with
>> async link DDCMP as found in RSX and several other operating
>> systems. But the speed is limited.
>>
>> The other option would be synchronous links, which would enable
>> connections to DMC11 or the like at speeds up to 1 Mb/s. But
>> synchronous comm devices that connect to modern computers aren't so
>> easy to find, though I have seen a few.
>>
>> After playing with Arduino for LK201 keyboard emulation I started to
>> wonder if one could be made to be a synchronous comm link with a USB
>> back end, with low level things like byte framing and maybe DDCMP
>> packet format handling in there, but the protocol state machine in
>> the host behind the USB interface. For moderate speeds that seems
>> entirely practical. For 1 Mb/s, probably not, though perhaps one of
>> the fast ARM based units with its built-in SPI could be warped into
>> that.
>>
>> The alternative would be something like a BeagleBone Black (or Green)
>> such as David Gesswein used as the engine for his MFM hard disk
>> emulator. That clearly could do the job without any strain.
>>
>> So I'm wondering: would there be interest in such a thing? If yes,
>> should it be a modem-connected one (RS232 signaling, bit clock
>> supplied externally by a modem or modem-eliminator)? Or should it be
>> the "integral modem" short distance type, the ones that used a pair
>> of coax with 4-pin AMP connectors like this
>> https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/te-connectivity-amp-connectors/206060-1/15588
>> ?
>
> You could implement it as a USB interface to a Z8530 or a Z80 SIO,
> they both do synchronous serial, and most likely implement all of the
> required functionality. They're both readily available, and likely
> will be for a long time. I think the Z8530 may even still be current,
> but I've not checked.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> -Dave
>
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