[HECnet] Is this the most up to date version of DECnet OS numbers?

[Keith Halewood]

Well, that was an interesting compilation of the raspbian kernel.
I cloned https://github.com/JohnForecast/RaspbianDECnet and got busy. I had to remove the --help-- stanzas from the Kconfig file. They were tripping something up.
I had to move the MAC address change to the bridge (I use /etc/network/interfaces with bridges and taps etc..)

DECnet is all working on a 32bit raspbian on a pi3b+, HECnet node name 29.115 - I'll christen it at some point :)
Thank you John Forecast for doing all the hard work.

Keith

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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: 07 November 2021 20:37
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] Is this the most up to date version of DECnet OS numbers?

On 2021-11-07 18:06, Robert Armstrong wrote:
>> I think DECnet/8 is for RTS-8, but there never was one for OS-8.
> 
>    Yes, the DECnet-8 was for RTS although you could run OS/8 as a task 
> under RTS (so maybe those two count as the same).  In any case AFAIK 
> there was never any NFT or FAL or remote terminal or NCP/NML or 
> anything else like that implemented for DECnet/8.  It was more of a 
> toolkit kind of thing where you could write your own RTS program to 
> make a DECnet connection to another node.  What you sent over that connection was your problem.

Right. It was/is slightly more than a toolkit. It does have a couple of processes which deals with circuits and executor management. And I think there is TLK/LSN so you can communicate. But beyond that, you were on your own.

And no, OS/8 under RTS-8 don't allow them to be counted as one. :-)

>    Never heard of DECnet for CP/M although there certainly was one for MSDOS.
> Linux is interesting, although I doubt that was put there by DEC.  
> Probably somebody added it later.

Linux was definitely defined post-DEC. I simply just talked with a Linux FAL from RSX and checked what value it put in the OS field, and added that to my list from there.

>    And what the heck is COPOS/11??  I see that is says TOPS-20 front 
> end, but I thought TOPS20 used the same RSX20F as TOPS10.

I don't think it's the same as the RSX20F frontend. I have no idea what it is, but it's in the source files for the RSX DECnet code. Sounds like some oddball thing that existed somewhere. CSS thing maybe?

>    And DTF/MVS?  Is that the IBM OS MVS?

I almost suspect it might be, but again, no real clue. All I can say is that this is what is in the RSX sources.

   Johnny

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